As those who have read many of my posts will realize, I have strong feelings about the validity of completing and performing some otherwise unfinished works. I think that the cases for both the Mahler 10th and Bruckner 9th are quite clear. Others, such as the incomplete Schubert symphonies probably need to be left alone. Having said that, I thought it interesting to post some comments made by the English composer, George Lloyd, in a 1988 interview. When asked about the first version of his 2nd symphony and what if some conductor in the future finds it and decides to perform it...
"I've been pretty cunning over that, I might tell you. I discovered a few years back that this was a very dangerous thing, and that you couldn't leave anything around if you didn't want to acknowledge it. This idea of digging out everything that the poor composer has thrown away... take Puccini's Madame Butterfly. He cut out something like forty-five minutes of music from the original production. He, poor innocent, left it in publishers' cellars, and a few years ago that was just dug out and played again. Now I think that's really awful, because the man decided it was wrong, so it should be left wrong. They'll perform the original version of a Verdi opera which he revised, quite disregarding the fact that Verdi was a great stage craftsman, great musician, and he decided that he could improve it. But no, you have to give the original version. I think that's a load of nonsense. So, five or six years ago I went through everything and destroyed scores left, right, and center. I hope I got rid of most of the old rubbish that I wouldn't acknowledge!"
He went on to say...
"You've given me a great idea! Now if I just did a few sketches on one page and put "Symphony Number Thirteen"at the top, write about four or five bars and then go to another page and say, "This is the second movement," and write two chords, then in sixty or seventy years somebody will come along and they'd reconstruct an entire work out of my three pages! I'd have to see that they found it within fifty years of my death, and then my heirs would be able to claim some royalties on it!"
I am not familiar with his example from Puccini but I do know that I think that we would be much poorer if we ignored the first section of Mahler's Das Klagende Lied which he did attempt to suppress.
"I've been pretty cunning over that, I might tell you. I discovered a few years back that this was a very dangerous thing, and that you couldn't leave anything around if you didn't want to acknowledge it. This idea of digging out everything that the poor composer has thrown away... take Puccini's Madame Butterfly. He cut out something like forty-five minutes of music from the original production. He, poor innocent, left it in publishers' cellars, and a few years ago that was just dug out and played again. Now I think that's really awful, because the man decided it was wrong, so it should be left wrong. They'll perform the original version of a Verdi opera which he revised, quite disregarding the fact that Verdi was a great stage craftsman, great musician, and he decided that he could improve it. But no, you have to give the original version. I think that's a load of nonsense. So, five or six years ago I went through everything and destroyed scores left, right, and center. I hope I got rid of most of the old rubbish that I wouldn't acknowledge!"
He went on to say...
"You've given me a great idea! Now if I just did a few sketches on one page and put "Symphony Number Thirteen"at the top, write about four or five bars and then go to another page and say, "This is the second movement," and write two chords, then in sixty or seventy years somebody will come along and they'd reconstruct an entire work out of my three pages! I'd have to see that they found it within fifty years of my death, and then my heirs would be able to claim some royalties on it!"
I am not familiar with his example from Puccini but I do know that I think that we would be much poorer if we ignored the first section of Mahler's Das Klagende Lied which he did attempt to suppress.