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I think Glenn Gould deserves it to get an own thread.

The book I am reading is German, but it's amazing that you also can get this spreading impression through a translation, but must have a look on original, too.

The English version must be "The Glenn Gould Reader" edited by Tim Page. You will find it in Amazon, I think.

Also an interesting point: Gould and conducters. He didn't like to play with many conducters and later when he said bye to the concert life and only recorded he played even rarely with conducters.

Those one he liked to play with were: Stokowski, Golschmann, Krips, and Karajan.

Stokowski yes! Thats an interesting fact. Is Stokowski known also with energetic and free interpretations. The opposite - especially for Gould - Toscanini. He compares that to the Europians Mengelberg and Weingartner. Weingartner as enthusiast and Mengelberg the correct human. Stokowski was nearer to his character...and Stokowski who didnt like to play with soloist recorded with him the Beethoven 5 th!

Golschmann and Gould were a perfect double, they recorded Bach piano concerts. Golschmann followed the intensions of Glenny, so it was a good deal.
With Krips he made Beethoven concerts, 5 th excluded, quasi a remake to record even this concert with Stokowski later.

Must take a look to that book about pianists and violinists. I like reading interviews because they show you a real person and you learn much about his character, more maybe than in articles.
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We're talking about the great and mysterious conductor Leopold Stokowski right?
Ok, this's my impression of him. He's not just a musician...well, of caz, the fact that he's an accomplished organist gives him much insight into Bach. But he's a musical 'magician' with trendy, unusual(but fruitful) innovations- evolution of the "Stokowski Sound". I remembered having heard from my teacher that he allowed free bowing in the orchestra. He did not restrain the string players to the bowing indications, but leave it to their own discreetion instead. So it got disturbingly untidy visually, but the sound produced became somewhat velvety, dimensional and vivid, and he even implemented new seating arrangement for tranparency and clarity of sound- 'tonguing'. And his non-baton conducting became a trend for many great conductors to follow. It's fascinating how he commands with his hands and facial expression.
But much like the fate of Gould, not everyone is ready to accept such an innovator. And I figured, if u don't agree with Gould, then it's impossible with u to agree with Stokowski. He's an agressive musical 'innovator', so he enjoyed rearranging works of great composers. For him, it doesn't matter if music is written in a certain way... he'll intentionally play it in other manners to 'improve' textures and sound-Mussorgski’s Pictures at an Exhibition and A Night on the Bare Mountain or Debussy’s La cathédrale engloutie were wonderful re-creations.
But my fav has got to be the one he arranged for Waltz Disney 'Fantasia'. :)
To me, Stokowski's a 'music' radical( pretty much like Wagner and gang at that time- how Wagner and Weber were so smitten by the dense dim 7th sound ). He brings new life to music with daring transcriptions, esp. the Bach sets, provoking a much heated controversy over his symphonic transcriptions fo Bach's organ works. I quite like his 'Bach' collection actually... :)
some interesting sound experiments-rich and energetic. But one must be truly adventurous to love Glenn and Stokowski. They are really not for everyone, and the more not for sacrileged baroque purists.

I can definately see why Glenn would only play with Stokowski and the rest of em. They would probably die of rigid 'ristrictions' and boredom should they colloborate with mainstream conductors. U can't keep a whale in a fish tank. Well, Glenn+Stokowski... 2 whales in the ocean. LOL...:)

Quoted :...The opposite - especially for Gould - Toscanini. He compares that to the Europians Mengelberg and Weingartner. Weingartner as enthusiast and Mengelberg the correct human. Stokowski was nearer to his character...and Stokowski who didnt like to play with soloist recorded with him the Beethoven 5 th!...
Interesting! :)

Quoted...The english version must be "The Glenn Gould Reader" edited by Tim Page...
MUST grab this book! :lol: Hey Daniel? Are U german or English? U've very good English. B)
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......"Fantasia! - i like that movie. My personal favourite is the dance of the hours by Ponchielli. The pics are so ingenious and funny (crocodiles at the end ).......
Me 2! Me 2!!! Yes, there's certainly something whimsical and humorous about the music. Very 'Americanised' music, I think. :)

......Actually i didn't like English in school, but got used to it browsing the web......
Really? Wow... to think that getting stuck to the computer actually has such an advantage. hmmmm... :D
Well, my German is horrible. I still remember how my teacher used to correct my lieder. <_<
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Myself i disagree with Gould, recordings should be done more in bigger parts because the energy flow is also cut otherwise

What do you think?
I think it's weird to cut and continue later on , trying to feel the same mood, the flow and etc. It just doesn't work for me. But then again, Maybe that's the way it should have been in the first place? :blink:
If u manage to get the flow, what u get is 'perfection'. B)
(It's such a pity Gould didn't record the 24 Preludes and Fugues by Shostakovich. This is the perfect work for him.)
Somehow I've the feeling that Glenny will not function with Shostakovitch. :huh:
His transperancy vs Shosta's preludes? Umm... I really don't think so. Though much of Shosta's prelude is baroque in mordern dress, but I doubt that Glenny's 'transperant, airy playing' will be an all positive element, perhaps in its form(clarity etc .) but definately not aesthetically. :huh:
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