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Is Liszt's music mostly just macho Red Bull time music?

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Okay this is what Liszt is often accused of (maybe not in those exact words but you get the point). So is it?
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I voted No and it rulz. I like some macho Red Bull time music, but that description doesn't seem to apply to Liszt.
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Liszt's music can be amazingly sensitive in a way that is entirely different from anyone else
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If it all was I'd still like it.
To those who are confused by the expression "macho red bull time music".

This is in my opinion just macho Red Bull time music, but still rather good:

Now this on the other hand is bad kind of macho Red Bull time music I think.
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To those who are confused by the expression "macho red bull time music".

This is in my opinion just macho Red Bull time music, but still rather good:

Now this on the other hand is bad kind of macho Red Bull time music I think.
I like Paul Gilbert AND Rusty Cooley... And Liszt for that matter. I hate when people say stuff is overly technical and because of that lacks emotion. Not that anybody has said this yet, but people do say it a lot. To me very virtuosic technical playing creates a certain kind of emotion that isn't achievable any other way, and this goes for Gilbert, Cooley, and Liszt in my opinion.
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Will abstain from voting, since the diversity in Abbé Liszt´s oeuvre transcends the aforementioned attempt at a general characterization.

BTW, there´s some rather awful stuff there too, in spite of the many, many fine pieces & interesting, ambitious works.
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I like Paul Gilbert AND Rusty Cooley... And Liszt for that matter. I hate when people say stuff is overly technical and because of that lacks emotion. Not that anybody has said this yet, but people do say it a lot. To me very virtuosic technical playing creates a certain kind of emotion that isn't achievable any other way, and this goes for Gilbert, Cooley, and Liszt in my opinion.
Rusty Cooley is a ridiculously... athletic player, but I've never heard anything musically interesting by him. That piece for instance sounds like my most uninspired guitar pro experiments (okay let's see how this scale/chord-progression sounds like...) arbitrarily put together. That main theme for instance is really lame. Mostly just two notes played back and worth. Then it's arpeggios up and down... then suddenly out of nowhere a time signature change with that phrygian riff, just doesn't fit.
Will abstain from voting, since the diversity in Abbé Liszt´s oeuvre transcends the aforementioned attempt at a general characterization.
That would be either of the No options then?
Not really, I think, because of it´s admittedly at times uneven quality. That said, there´s a lot I love.
Ah, I forgot that "rulz" and "sucks" is indeed a rather polarized choice....
Ah, I forgot that "rulz" and "sucks" is indeed a rather polarized choice....
Shouldn't it be "Sux" and "Rulz"?
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Ah true, what an embarrassing mispelling I was caught on....
Ah, I forgot that "rulz" and "sucks" is indeed a rather polarized choice....
Well, I´m probably just being stubborn.
The problem I have is that his music does not rule nor does it suck. It is stuck somewhere in between.
This is truly a hard poll to respond to. For a fuller treatment of the question, see my unpublished monograph, "Franz Liszt: Incomparable World-staggering Genius or Vomitous Scum-sucking Toad?"
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Rulz:

works like

Zonata, Via Cruziz, Les Preludez, Chriztuz, Lugubre Gondola 1-2, Anneez de Pelerinaze, Harmoniez Poetiquez et Religieuzez, Zello workz, Totentanz, Orpheuz, 2 Legendez, a good bunch of the Lieder, Fauzt Chorus, Fauzt Zymphony, Dante Zymphony, etc. etc. ...
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Rulz:
works like

Zonata, Via Cruziz, Les Preludez, Chriztuz, Lugubre Gondola 1-2, Anneez de Pelerinaze, Harmoniez Poetiquez et Religieuzez, Zello workz, Totentanz, Orpheuz, 2 Legendez, a good bunch of the Lieder, Fauzt Chorus, Fauzt Zymphony, Dante Zymphony, etc. etc.
Wow, they sound much cooler now. The bad Liszt works just need some extra z's to distract from the poor quality...
Upon further refleczion, I changed my mind, so: "No, and it rulz".
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I've never tried Red Bull. Is it anything like espresso?
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