[Eva Yojimbo]

He sounds like someone who practiced some scales. He probably learned how to do that at Julliard.

I assume you're joking, but SRV had no formal training. Like a lot of blues/jazz guys most of his learning came from practicing to his favorite artists from an early age. He started at age 7 and by age 11 he was already playing local gigs, eventually becoming one of the biggest acts in Texas and, even later, paving the way for the blues revival of the 80s. He's one of those guys who played/practiced his instrument obsessively and it shows in his playing. He's widely regarded as one of the best guitarists ever with a style that is nearly inimitable.

 

[Captainnumber36]

I assume you're joking, but SRV had no formal training. Like a lot of blues/jazz guys most of his learning came from practicing to his favorite artists from an early age. He started at age 7 and by age 11 he was already playing local gigs, eventually becoming one of the biggest acts in Texas and, even later, paving the way for the blues revival of the 80s. He's one of those guys who played/practiced his instrument obsessively and it shows in his playing. He's widely regarded as one of the best guitarists ever with a style that is nearly inimitable.

While I agree SRV is more technically impressive, I feel more sense of color and deeper sense of emotion from Depp. I think Depp is the greater artist of the two, but SRV is the better musician. I prefer artists to musicians.

 

[norman bates]

In fact, the masses prefer elegance, like the scientific concept.

since when exactly? Because I live in a world where mainstream pop artists make music that can't be further from my idea of elegance.

 

[Captainnumber36]

since when exactly? Because I live in a world where mainstream pop artists make music that can't be further from my idea of elegance.

The timeless classics that got noticed such as the Bond films, My Fair Lady, Early Beatles and etc are all examples of mainstream elegance in art.

There are of course, always, hidden gems that don't get noticed and it's our job to make them known, as fans of art!

 

[Captainnumber36]

since when exactly? Because I live in a world where mainstream pop artists make music that can't be further from my idea of elegance.

Most mainstream acts are selling mediocre versions of genius ideas and looks. Most underground art is inspired, yet pretentious.

The best is inspired and beautiful.

 

[norman bates]

The timeless classics that got noticed such as the Bond films, My Fair Lady, Early Beatles and etc are all examples of mainstream elegance in art.

There are of course, always, hidden gems that don't get noticed and it's our job to make them known, as fans of art!

do you realize that we are in 2023 and not in the sixties? The masses don't have a preference for elegance.

 

[Captainnumber36]

do you realize that we are in 2023 and not in the sixties? The masses don't have a preference for elegance.

They do, it's just that there aren't any modern classics to embrace. All we hear talk of is the past greats.

 

[Forster]

I think it has emotional depth, but not very interesting.

I'm not sure it has emotional depth either. He can play guitar, but we're only listening because he already has a name, unlike the less wellknown on YTB doing the same.

Here's Gabriel Cyr...(who he?)

And a young wannabe, Taj Farrant on Ellen...

 

[Captainnumber36]

I'm not sure it has emotional depth either. He can play guitar, but we're only listening because he already has a name, unlike the less wellknown on YTB doing the same.

Not feeling it.

 

[Forster]

Not feeling it.

Who's not feeling what?

 

[Captainnumber36]

Who's not feeling what?

I, them.

 

[Forster]

I, them.

I wasn't expecting you to. My point was that playing solo guitar just isn't that special. Pretty much anyone who puts in the hours can do it.

 

[Captainnumber36]

I wasn't expecting you to. My point was that playing solo guitar just isn't that special. Pretty much anyone who puts in the hours can do it.

The only thing that makes any art special is that it does something for you, buddy.

 

[Eva Yojimbo]

While I agree SRV is more technically impressive, I feel more sense of color and deeper sense of emotion from Depp. I think Depp is the greater artist of the two, but SRV is the better musician. I prefer artists to musicians.

OK, but you should understand that nobody else is in your brain and can understand why you're hearing "color and emotion" from the Depp piece, but only "better technique" from SRV. I'd wager that if you gave both tracks to a random pool of people the vast majority would be getting more emotion out of the SRV piece... I mean, there's a reason he's one of the best-selling blues artists of all time and it isn't because average people just thought he was a skilled technician.

 

[Forster]

The only thing that makes any art special is that it does something for you, buddy.

And guitar solos don't usually do it for me, mate. Having seen the likes of Phil Miller, Gary Moore, Allan Holdsworth and Zappa in concert ( not together, you understand) I can admire their technical skill, but I much prefer the more modest breaks of Steve Hackett.

 

[Captainnumber36]

TC has become invested with mainstream pseudo-intellectualism.

 

[Captainnumber36]

OK, but you should understand that nobody else is in your brain and can understand why you're hearing "color and emotion" from the Depp piece, but only "better technique" from SRV. I'd wager that if you gave both tracks to a random pool of people the vast majority would be getting more emotion out of the SRV piece... I mean, there's a reason he's one of the best-selling blues artists of all time and it isn't because average people just thought he was a skilled technician.

Ya, they are selling the image of him being a rock and roll hero. It's not real music.

 

[khoff999]

I assume you're joking, but SRV had no formal training. Like a lot of blues/jazz guys most of his learning came from practicing to his favorite artists from an early age. He started at age 7 and by age 11 he was already playing local gigs, eventually becoming one of the biggest acts in Texas and, even later, paving the way for the blues revival of the 80s. He's one of those guys who played/practiced his instrument obsessively and it shows in his playing. He's widely regarded as one of the best guitarists ever with a style that is nearly inimitable.

Yes, I was kidding. I was in high school in the early 70s when Johnny Winter (who didn't go to Julliard either) was the big blues guitarist out of Texas. Then SRV showed up and Johnny had company. Both of them could rip it up.

 

[Merl]

I had the pleasure of seeing SRV live at Reading in 1983 and can confirm thay he was up there with the best guitarists I've ever seen live (EVH, Fripp, Schenker, Rhoads, Marino, Nugent, Gallagher, Trower, Clemson, Lifeson, etc). His set that day short and spectacular. Somewhere I have a rubbish picture I took of him onstage from a distance. We were waiting for someone else on the other stage. If id have known how good he was going to be I'd have got down the front of the other stage with my camera.

 

[Art Rock]

I think it's time to close this. For now at least.

Open again after some spring cleaning.