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In his book Introduction to the Sociology of Music, writer and composer Theodor Adorno presents a list of different listener types. What do you think? Do any of these apply to yourself or other listeners? Or is it all nonsense and/or out of date? Or perhaps you can idenitify types that he has overlooked.


1. The Expert:


...the fully conscious listener who tends to miss nothing and at the same time, at each moment, accounts to himself for what he has heard... Spontaneously following the course of music, even complicated music, he hears the sequence, hears past, present, and future moments together so that they crystallize into a meaningful context. Simultaneous complexities—in other words, a complicated harmony and polyphony—are separately and distinctly grasped by the expert.

2. The Good Listener:


The good listener too hears beyond musical details, makes connections spontaneously, and judges for good reasons, not just by categories of prestige and by an arbitrary taste; but he is not, or not fully, aware of the technical and structural implications. Having unconsciously mastered its immanent logic, he understands music about the way we understand our own language even though virtually or wholly ignorant of its grammar and syntax.

3. The Cultural Consumer:


He is a copious, sometimes a voracious listener, well—informed, a collector of records. He respects music as a cultural asset, often as something a man must know for the sake of his own social standing; this attitude runs the gamut from an earnest sense of obligation to vulgar snobbery. For the spontaneous and direct relation to music, the faculty of simultaneously experiencing and comprehending its structure, it substitutes hoarding as much musical information as possible, notably about biographical data and about the merits of interpreters, a subject for hours of inane discussion.
Such people are appraisers. The one thing they primarily respond to is an exorbitant and, so to speak, measurable performance—breakneck virtuosity, for instance, wholly in the sense of the "show" ideal. Technique, the means, impresses them as an end in itself; in this respect they are quite close to the presently widespread mass audience.


4. The Emotional Listener:


His relation to music is less rigid and indirect than the culture consumer's, but in another respect it is even farther removed from perception: to him, the relation becomes crucial for triggering instinctual stirrings otherwise tamed or repressed by norms of civilization . Often music becomes a source of irrationality, whereby a man inexorably harnessed to the bustle of rationalistic self—preservation will be enabled to keep having feelings at all. Often he has virtually nothing to do any more with the form of what he has heard: its preponderant function is that of such a trigger... this type may indeed respond with particular strength to music of an obvious emotional hue, like Tchaikovsky's. He is easily moved to tears... The emotional type fiercely resists all attempts to make him listen structurally—more fiercely, perhaps, than the culture consumer who for culture's sake might put up even with that.


5. The Anti-Emotional Listener


Loyalty to the work, which they set against the bourgeois ideal of musical showmanship, becomes an end in itself, not so much a matter of adequately presenting and experiencing the meaning of works as of guarding zealously against any minute deviation from what—impeachably enough—they take for the performing practice of past ages. If the emotional type tends to corn, [the anti-emotional] tend to a spurious rigor, to mechanical suppression of his own stirrings... Subjectivity, expression—to the resentment listener all this is profoundly linked with promiscuity, and that he cannot bear to think of... Strikingly undeveloped in this type is the sense for qualitative differences within the preferred literature. The ideology of unity shriveled the sense for nuances. As a general rule, whatever is differentiated comes under puritanical suspicion

6. The Entertainment Listener:


The ground for the type has been prepared in another type: in the culture consumer, who does not relate to specific music either; to both types it is not a meaningful context but a source of stimuli. Elements of emotional listening play a part there, so do elements of listening as a sport. But all of this is flattened as by a steamroller, leveled by the need for music as a comfortable distraction.
It is quite possible that extremes of this type may not even be gratified any longer by the atomistic stimuli, that music will hardly be enjoyed any longer, in any conceivable sense. The structure of this sort of listening is like that of smoking. We define it more by our displeasure in turning the radio off than by the pleasure we feel, however modestly, while it is playing.
We might conceive a series leading from the man who cannot work without the blare of a radio to one who kills time and paralyzes loneliness by filling his ears with the illusion of "being with" no matter what; from him to the lovers of medleys and musical comedy tunes; on to those who value music as a means of relaxation.
If the culture consumer will turn up his nose at popular music, the entertainment listener's only fear is to be ranked too high. He is a self—conscious lowbrow who makes a virtue of his own mediocrity.
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Really interesting post, thanks. I class myself as a good listener. My parents were musicians, and some of the family, but I stopped in my late teens, then took up serious listening a couple of years later. Richard Strauss pointed out that no one who is not a professional musician can understand all the technicalities and nuances, but we can have highly educated ears.
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To be honest, I think this classification is completely nonsense and snobbery.

The expert can also be an avid collector of records and comparator of performances and also be emotionally affected etc.
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I know people who fit into each of these categories.
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as a musician, I can tell you that it is a fact that there are different sorts of listeners. just like there are different sorts of drivers on the road.

And just like with cars, everybody thinks they are good drivers, but we all know that isnt true.

Personally, I dont think the description of the "expert" is complete enough. I play with musicians who can anticipate what is coming next and they get there when I do while I am improvising a line at tempo.

But unless you are trying to get paying gigs, you probably wouldn't want to listen like I do. You see, I can't passively listen to music, so I can't "relax" and listen to music. I have to watch the Three Stooges or Bugs Bunny cartoons or something like that. Unless Bugs is doing opera or playing piano. Seriously, the other day I was playing along with Bugs on "Fur Elise". He's got a nice touch, you know. Of course he didn't get to any of the cool interlude parts. Yosemite Sam started shooting the place up while Bugs was still in the first A section, but you see what I mean. If music is playing, my ear is telling me what notes to play and it doesn't really "shut off"

probably the "good listener" would be the sweet spot. You hear what is there and know what it means, but you haven't yet gone off your rocker to the point that you play duets with cartoon characters
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as a musician, I can tell you that it is a fact that there are different sorts of listeners. just like there are different sorts of drivers on the road.

And just like with cars, everybody thinks they are good drivers, but we all know that isnt true.

Personally, I dont think the description of the "expert" is complete enough. I play with musicians who can anticipate what is coming next and they get there when I do while I am improvising a line at tempo.

But unless you are trying to get paying gigs, you probably wouldn't want to listen like I do. You see, I can't passively listen to music, so I can't "relax" and listen to music. I have to watch the Three Stooges or Bugs Bunny cartoons or something like that. Unless Bugs is doing opera or playing piano. Seriously, the other day I was playing along with Bugs on "Fur Elise". He's got a nice touch, you know. Of course he didn't get to any of the cool interlude parts. Yosemite Sam started shooting the place up while Bugs was still in the first A section, but you see what I mean. If music is playing, my ear is telling me what notes to play and it doesn't really "shut off"

probably the "good listener" would be the sweet spot. You hear what is there and know what it means, but you haven't yet gone off your rocker to the point that you play duets with cartoon characters
I can't relax and listen to a lot of operatic/vocal music (retired opera singer). I find myself humming along and mouthing the words to things, all the time critically analyzing things, wondering how they will handle the next phrase, etc etc. I guess we can't shut it off if it is our performing instrument. I try to relax and listen to non-vocal music and often succeed because I am not proficient in any other instrument aside from my own. I wonder how it is for conductors?
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I can't relax and listen to a lot of operatic/vocal music (retired opera singer). I find myself humming along and mouthing the words to things, all the time critically analyzing things, wondering how they will handle the next phrase, etc etc. I guess we can't shut it off if it is our performing instrument. I try to relax and listen to non-vocal music and often succeed because I am not proficient in any other instrument aside from my own. I wonder how it is for conductors?
yep, that's what its like. I always believed musicians were just wired up different from everybody else.
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Adorno seems to care too much about how other people are (or are not) appreciating music.
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but to be fair, he is writing a book on the SOCIOLOGY of music, so that's sort of his main topic, ...how people are enjoying music.

He left out quite a few prominent groups, though. He doesn't even mention drunken karaoke. That is such a large segment of the listening population that I even learned the changes to "Sweet Caroline"

and then there is the drunken businessman category. They come up and tell you about how they used to take lessons when they were a kid and all that, meanwhile you are desperately trying to get to the can on your short-assed set break

and never underestimate the tone deaf drunken partier that wants to hear "Freebird", regardless of the genre of music being played at the moment

no, there's lots of listener groups that didn't make it to his book, that's for sure
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I listen to music in different ways at different times and in different moods, analytically sometimes and with complete aesthetic immersion at others. I have no problem switching between modes. Presenting various modes of listening as Adorno has, that is, as personified archetypes, irks me, but then I was never attracted to the field of sociology.
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3. The Cultural Consumer:
He is a copious, sometimes a voracious listener, well—informed, a collector of records. He respects music as a cultural asset, often as something a man must know for the sake of his own social standing; this attitude runs the gamut from an earnest sense of obligation to vulgar snobbery. For the spontaneous and direct relation to music, the faculty of simultaneously experiencing and comprehending its structure, it substitutes hoarding as much musical information as possible, notably about biographical data and about the merits of interpreters, a subject for hours of inane discussion.
Such people are appraisers. The one thing they primarily respond to is an exorbitant and, so to speak, measurable performance—breakneck virtuosity, for instance, wholly in the sense of the "show" ideal. Technique, the means, impresses them as an end in itself; in this respect they are quite close to the presently widespread mass audience.
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I was beginning to identify with the "Cultural Consumer", until I got to that term "vulgar snobbery." I may be vulgar, but my snobbery certainly isn't.
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I detect aspects of my relationship with music in the first four of Adorno's categories. Which aspects are dominant depends on the musical genre. Because I received formal training, took music courses in college, and played for many years with Early and Baroque music ensembles, I come close to the Expert category, but only with respect to Early and Baroque. I am not an actual expert, though, because my knowledge and musical talent are inadequate. For CM in general, I am mostly in the Good Listener category because I have listened to CM seriously for many years, read criticism, discuss it, and so forth. With composers I don't especially enjoy, I'm more of a Cultural Consumer as I feel an obligation to be well informed, which has to do with my commitment to self-improvement as well as my desire to be respected by other CM enthusiasts. I tend to experience folk and some popular music an Emotional Listener. So my point is that I think one can have differing listening characteristics depending on the musical genre - a point made earlier in this thread by professional musicians.
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It is good to make your own identities or classes of music listeners. I've witnessed countless people who listen like the people described in the list. It may not cover life in a musicians career as a whole. But experience is widely loved and sought-after.
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I think the term "The Purist" is a better term that "Anti-Emotional Listener" who may want emotion but not at the expense of what they see as being brought forth by sacrificing the integrity of the composer's musical vision. I also think that "Entertainment Listener" can be broken down further to the "Background-Noise Listener" and the "Fun Listener". While the Background-Noise Listener seems to need Chopin's Nocturnes as a soundtrack to writing a college paper; or the soothing sounds of Baroque to play at his or her brunch with friends; the "Fun Listener" will happily play Tchaikovsky's 1812 or Ravel's Bolero while being either being blissfully ignorant or unaffected by what the snobs may say.

I'm about 5% the Expert Listener; about 25% the Good Listener; about 10% the Cultural Listener; about 40% the Emotional Listener; 5% Purist; 5% Background-Noise Listener; and 10% Fun Listener.

I try to listen carefully to understand the musical vision of the composer within the context of culture; but then I also like to reflect on how the music makes me feel and what meanings I can find in it. I also believe strongly that music should be fun; and I detest the term "musical appreciation" and would like to replace it with "musical enjoyment."
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I can't relax and listen to a lot of operatic/vocal music (retired opera singer). I find myself humming along and mouthing the words to things, all the time critically analyzing things, wondering how they will handle the next phrase, etc etc. I guess we can't shut it off if it is our performing instrument. I try to relax and listen to non-vocal music and often succeed because I am not proficient in any other instrument aside from my own. I wonder how it is for conductors?
I suppose the question is, does it stop you enjoying the music? If so, that's a shame, but if not, it simply means you are engaging at a deep level, which is great.
I suppose the question is, does it stop you enjoying the music? If so, that's a shame, but if not, it simply means you are engaging at a deep level, which is great.
No I wallow in the music, and feel engaged at a deep level (unless I'm shocked out of it because the singer has a train wreck of somekind.) :p
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