[Granate]

I'm feeling very odd. I checked out that Fritz Kobus, in his ongoing Wagner purchases, has clicked on a Holländer recording I appreciate: the Konwitschny 1960 in Berlin for Electrola, reissued by Brilliant. It's a tad cheap. So in my endless wait for the Muti Macbeth, I checked out the prices of the Konwitschny Tannhäuser and the Knappertsbusch stereo Parsifal (1962), and they have low prices in the marketplace in Amazon UK (14€ and 17€ delivery included). I would have liked to buy one of them, but I remember that I haven't even touched the Barenboim TUI because I'm insanely busy with opera challenges and Beethoven Symphony episodes reviewing 8 cycles in each one.

I need patience because probably in 5 years time I have already finished testing all the orchestral and operatic discography. I don't enjoy music, I enjoy comparing, and it's like I'm buying CDs for watching on my shelf instead of playing them. The thing now is that I'm not liking at all this Beethoven Symphony episode I'm in and I'm finding out I could like Beethoven Symphonies even less than many operas. Decision: no purchase.

I hope to be wrong and like more symphonic composers out of Bruckner, Mahler and Sibelius, but I see myself in the future with a single shelf full of opera recordings and no Baroque period whatsoever. I'd love to settle down one day and listen and enjoy my favourite operas, maybe being 36 and marrying my CD collection. Alone but not lonely.

I don't know, I'm not in a good mood this month. It's called lack of perspective.

 

[SixFootScowl]

I'm feeling very odd. I checked out that Fritz Kobus, in his ongoing Wagner purchases, has clicked on a Holländer recording I appreciate: the Konwitschny 1960 in Berlin for Electrola, reissued by Brilliant. It's a tad cheap. So in my endless wait for the Muti Macbeth, I checked out the prices of the Konwitschny Tannhäuser and the Knappertsbusch stereo Parsifal (1962), and they have low prices in the marketplace in Amazon UK (14€ and 17€ delivery included). I would have liked to buy one of them, but I remember that I haven't even touched the Barenboim TUI because I'm insanely busy with opera challenges and Beethoven Symphony episodes reviewing 8 cycles in each one.

I need patience because probably in 5 years time I have already finished testing all the orchestral and operatic discography. I don't enjoy music, I enjoy comparing, and it's like I'm buying CDs for watching on my shelf instead of playing them. The thing now is that I'm not liking at all this Beethoven Symphony episode I'm in and I'm finding out I could like Beethoven Symphonies even less than many operas. Decision: no purchase.

I hope to be wrong and like more symphonic composers out of Bruckner, Mahler and Sibelius, but I see myself in the future with a single shelf full of opera recordings and no Baroque period whatsoever. I'd love to settle down one day and listen and enjoy my favourite operas, maybe being 36 and marrying my CD collection. Alone but not lonely.

I don't know, I'm not in a good mood this month. It's called lack of perspective.

If you are not enjoying the Beethoven symphony cycles, shelve them for the time being. I have a half dozen or so Beethoven symphony cycles and probably four dozen or so Ninths, but rarely listen to any of it any more. I am focused into opera and even there, feel that I have spread myself too thin, bought too many operas and recordings I just don't need or listen to. But the bottom line is that I won't be bothered by it, but will listen to what my current desire leads me to. Got my ninth Wagner Ring cycle coming in the mail, and suppose I ought to give it a listen, but am not sure I ever listened to the Janowski Ring cycle I got last year. Ah well, if I get to it or it not, I will still listen to good music.

But for my favorite operas, I kind of like having so many recordings, especially if none pops out as being way above the rest. With the Hollander, Sinopoli is probably my top recording, but let's see if my recent Solti and Konwitschny set pulls ahead for top place. I just switched out several from my mp3 player with several others. Nice to have so much variety within the same opera.

 

[Granate]

Two days ago I made a list of all the Wagner Walhall recordings I wanted to buy (because I had already tried them). The other list with ASINs I needed to do was the one for DG & Decca Originals, which have a nice price and offer a phisical libretto. I think this collection is very likely to go OOP sooner than later and that's why I'd like to do challenges of each opera on this list, in the case I want to buy exactly that Originals recording. This is the list:

B00004R7X8 Berg - Lulu - Boulez
B00006L76O Berlioz - La damnation de Faust - Markevitch
B0006ZFQNA Bizet - Carmen - Abbado
B000FG5PHW Britten - Peter Grimes - Britten
B000SSPKZE Catalani - La Wally - Cleva AOOP
B000PMFTC2 Donizetti - Don Pasquale - Kertesz AOOP
B000E6EGXW Donizetti - L'elisir d'Amore - Bonynge
B001JJX7M4 Donizetti - La fille du regiment - Bonynge
B002ASW0AS Gluck - Iphigénie en Tauride - Gardiner
B000GYHZ76 Gounod - Faust - Davis
B000E8N7QM Handel - Solomon - Gardiner
B0018NUM5Q Handel - Jephta - Gardiner AOOP
B001JJX7MO Handel - Israel in Egypt - Gardiner OOP!!
B000EBD84A Massenet - Werther - Davis AOOP (B006IOOXLY)
B000001GX8 Mozart - Le Nozze di Figaro - Böhm
B000058BGU Mozart - Don Giovanni - Fricsay
B0018NUM5G Mozart - Die Zauberflote - Solti AOOP
B000001GXI Mozart - Die Zauberflöte - Böhm
B000GUJZTG Mussorgsky - Boris Godunov - Karajan
B001CJJWIY Puccini - Il trittico - Bartoletti AOOP
B000E6EGZ0 Puccini - Tosca - Karajan
B000174LUM Puccini - La fanciulla del West - Mehta
B000GUJZU0 Rossini - Guglielmo Tell - Chailly AOOP
B000006NXT Rossini - Il Barbiere di Siviglia - Abbado
B000SSPL08 Schoenberg - Moses und Aron - Solti AOOP
B000KQGODG J. Strauss II - Die Fledermaus - Karajan
B000031WYQ J. Strauss II - Die Fledermaus - Kleiber AOOP
B000E6EH04 R. Strauss - Salome - Solti
B000KLRUJS R. Strauss - Elektra - Solti
B000YCLR7O R. Strauss - Der Rosenkavalier - Solti
B000GUJZUU R. Strauss - Arabella - Solti
B00006L76S Tchaikovsky - Pique Dame - Rostropovich AOOP
B01BL2FBIG Tchaikovsky - Eugen Onegin - Levine
B002ASW0BC Verdi - Nabucco - Gardelli
B000PMFTCC Verdi - Luisa Miller - Maag
B00000J9HF Verdi - Rigoletto - Giulini
B000SSPL44 Verdi - La Traviata - Kleiber
B000E0W25C Verdi - Il Trovatore - Giulini
B000SSPL0I Verdi - La Forza del Destino - Molinari-Pradelli AOOP
B000001GS3 Verdi - Macbeth - Abbado
B000001GXJ Verdi - Simon Boccanegra - Abbado
B001CJJWJ8 Verdi - Don Carlo - Solti
B00ETHPNF2 Verdi - Don Carlos - Abbado
B000KLRUKC Verdi - Aida - Karajan
B000YCLR74 Verdi - Otello - Karajan
B001JJX7K6 Wagner - Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg- Jochum
B000001GXS Wagner - Tristan und Isolde - Böhm AOOP
B0006ZFQP8 Wagner - Tristan und Isolde - Kleiber
B000FVHGZG Wagner - Parsifal - Knappersbusch 1962
B000006145 Weber - Der Freischütz - Kleiber

Of course there is the individual editions of the Mackerras Janacek operas, but those ones are already sold in a cheaper box altogether. I don't think I'm missing any in this list. If you want to know, my first priority is Giulini's Rigoletto.

If you like the list too, you should copy and paste it in a document, because it's an excellent browsing tool...

 

[SixFootScowl]

Two days ago I made a list of all the Wagner Walhall recordings I wanted to buy (because I had already tried them). The other list with ASINs I needed to do was the one for DG & Decca Originals, which have a nice price and offer a phisical libretto. I think this collection is very likely to go OOP sooner than later and that's why I'd like to do challenges of each opera on this list, in the case I want to buy exactly that Originals recording.

Plug those ASINs into www.bookbutler.com and it will give you the cheapest prices and the UPC which can then be run through Ebay.

 

[Granate]

Plug those ASINs into www.bookbutler.com and it will give you the cheapest prices and the UPC which can then be run through Ebay.

Are you speaking to the others or to me? ("you" is a particularly tricky pronoun)

Because I used the hell out of Discogs and Bookbutler for this list.

 

[SixFootScowl]

Are you speaking to the others or to me? ("you" is a particularly tricky pronoun)

Because I used the hell out of Discogs and Bookbutler for this list.

You. Just making sure you were aware. Guess the other place to look for some of this is OperaDepot and they are having a sale right now.

 

[Granate]

^^

I'm checking right now if I should buy more than just one Vienna Carmen by Karajan.

 

[DavidA]

^^

I'm checking right now if I should buy more than just one Vienna Carmen by Karajan.

There is of course the famous Vienna Karajan with Price and Corelli.

But another (which I have) recorded live at the Vienna Opera in 1954 with Simionato and Gedda. Simionato a very Italian Carmen. Gedda his usual reliable self. Guden and Roux fill Michaela and Escamillo. Certainly worth a listen. Pays your money...........

 

[Granate]

There is of course the famous Vienna Karajan with Price and Corelli.

But another (which I have) recorded live at the Vienna Opera in 1954 with Simionato and Gedda. Simionato a very Italian Carmen. Gedda his usual reliable self. Guden and Roux fill Michaela and Escamillo. Certainly worth a listen. Pays your money...........

Thank you, DavidA. I'm eager to listen to all the Karajan Carmen

 

[DavidA]

Thank you, DavidA. I'm eager to listen to all the Karajan Carmen

Been listening to the Vienna performance again - it is a really gripping performance, especially from Karajan and Simionato. Really dramatic.

I'd be interested to hear the La Scala performance with di Stefano. Sadly, although Culshaw wanted him on the Schippers recording, del Monaco persuaded the powers that be he should record the role, this pretty well ruining what would have been a very good performance .

 

[Granate]

Been listening to the Vienna performance again - it is a really gripping performance, especially from Karajan and Simionato. Really dramatic.

I'd be interested to hear the La Scala performance with di Stefano. Sadly, although Culshaw wanted him on the Schippers recording, del Monaco persuaded the powers that be he should record the role, this pretty well ruining what would have been a very good performance .

Yeah, that would be an interesting piece of history. Why did both the Studio Vienna Carmen by Karajan and the Swiss Carmen by Schippers fall into oblivion? I guess there was a sharing agreement between Decca and RCA in terms of release rights.

 

[DavidA]

Yeah, that would be an interesting piece of history. Why did both the Studio Vienna Carmen by Karajan and the Swiss Carmen by Schippers fall into oblivion? I guess there was a sharing agreement between Decca and RCA in terms of release rights.

The later Karajan recording with the VPO (Price and Corelli) is still widely available and has been reissued by Decca. The Schippers is worth a listen for some vital conducting, Resik's Carmen but every time Del Monaco comes on he just bawls his head off in appalling French. Still available.

The VSO with Simionato was a radio broadcast recording and has a limited circulation..

 

[Granate]

The later Karajan recording with the VPO (Price and Corelli) is still widely available and has been reissued by Decca. The Schippers is worth a listen for some vital conducting, Resik's Carmen but every time Del Monaco comes on he just bawls his head off in appalling French. Still available.

The VSO with Simionato was a radio broadcast recording and has a limited circulation..

I've only found on print B0041KUO5Q and B00000425U for Schippers' Carmen, but none for Karajan's first studio recoding in Vienna.

 

[DavidA]

I've only found on print B0041KUO5Q and B00000425U for Schippers' Carmen, but none for Karajan's first studio recoding in Vienna.

I note Amazon saying Karajan / Price unavailable. I recently saw it in a second hand shop for under £5 which was annoying as I already had it. I love a bargain! :lol:

Just listening to the Karajan 1954 Vienna. it is quite different from his later Vienna with Price. So much for tin-eared critics who say he conducted everything the same! Gedda is a revelation - quite superb in the first two acts although his lyric tenor lacks some heft for the last half. I wouldn't put it above the Karajan / Price but it is certainly a very vital performance.

 

[JhonyL]

great one congratulations hope you enjoy them

 

[JhonyL]

Bluestacks Kodi Lucky Patcher

 

[JosefinaHW]

Wagner, The Ring, Furtwangler, 1953, Orchestra Sinfonica e Coro della Radio Italiana, Legacy Box Set

 

[Barbebleu]

Wagner, The Ring, Furtwangler, 1953, Orchestra Sinfonica e Coro della Radio Italiana, Legacy Box Set

What sort of lunatic price are they asking for this depth-charge of a box!:lol:

Aha! Found it on Amazon UK. £559.98 + £5.23 postage. Hilarious. Is that about $700?

 

[JosefinaHW]

What sort of lunatic price are they asking for this depth-charge of a box!:lol:

Aha! Found it on Amazon UK. £559.98 + £5.23 postage. Hilarious. Is that about $700?

I got it for $105/$120 (don't remember which of the two)!!! I really lucked out.

It's funny you say depth-charge. I wouldn't have thought of that, but those gorgeous blues remind me of both swimming and a winter's night.

 

[SixFootScowl]

I got it for $105/$120 (don't remember which of the two)!!! I really lucked out.

It's funny you say depth-charge. I wouldn't have thought of that, but those gorgeous blues remind me of both swimming and a winter's night.

Depth-charge? Wouldn't that be the Bohm Ring?