Evidently the target audience is new young CD collectors with great eyesight.I'm increasingly sympathetic to this, somewhat to my surprise. Although I'm over 70 and retain an affection for physical media - and remember some LPs nostalgically - I've never had much affection for the CD. It was a great invention for saving space, but it rarely equals the aesthetic value of the LP, and the microscopic print of opera librettos is offputting at best. A desire to strip down my possessions in old age has prompted the shrinking of my CD collection, and I now listen to music largely online. A new edition of the Solti Ring will no doubt please a limited audience, and that's all any product needs to do. I won't be part of that audience,
Depends what you mean by "this stuff".Evidently the target audience is new young CD collectors with great eyesight.
On an unrelated note, does anyone ever wonder why sales of this stuff is down?
I compared 2012 vs 2022 in Qobuz and I am pretty confident to the point of ordering the vinyl too (looks promising).
The Time-Life was super deluxe in the day. iIt should sound sumptuous.I haven't heard this since I was a teen in Mississippi but upon all the good critical praise I decided to buy a near mint condition LP version of Solti's Gotterdammerung at a very good price, although more than any other vinyl I have been buying lately. I look forward to hearing it's supposed virtues. I wanted to get Varnay's version with Knapperbusch ( sp?) but they were over $100 and that is too rich for my blood. I got the Time Life edition which I suppose is the same as the regular initial version. I am very excited. It is one of my 2 or 3 favorite operas.
Yes. You can get several on Idagio (both well known studio recordings and private recordings from 1950's Bayreuth to present). Spotify has even more options. Here is a sample of what is available on Idagio for Gotterdamerung.Do the streaming services stream Ring operas?
Greetings!Greetings from a (very) new member prompted to join by this very interesting and erudite thread - thanks to all.
I only have the original 15 CD release (1984?) of the wonderful Ring recording produced by John Culshaw and his team (aided and abetted by Solti and Wagner, of course, and the magnificent musicians and singers).
I wish I had bought the Bu-ray reissue on release partly because of hoped for improved sound and placement but mainly because of the convenience of the whole shebang on a single disc!
My hi-fi is old (c1995) but decent - Quad 67/66/bi-amp 606s/Ruark speakers. My ears are also old (c1948) and not as good as they were particularly on the left channel.
I remain to be convinced that I would gain from “upgrading” at some expense but I really should spend more time listening to what I have!
Incidentally, I believe Culshaw moved Valhalla and Earth in trying to obtain the release of the Decca 1951 Bayreuth Knappertsbusch Götterdämmerung but even he was ultimately defeated by the legal bods at Decca and EMI over artists recording rights.
Best wishes for 2023 to all.
You’re right, the prices ARE outrageous - I hadn’t checked before I wrote the above! When I bought mine it was around U.S. $60.Thanks for your advice; I’m sure you are right and my Blu-ray player can be played through the hi-fi so I’m not reliant on the 10 pound/dollar/euros worth of amp/speakers normally found in a TV set. The problem is a) extremely limited avaliability and b) extortionate advertised price of Solti/Ring Blu-ray Disc!
I wonder why an upgraded Blu-ray is not included in the latest Decca offerings?
I don't do downloads. Whether I would pay about $385 for a new mastering of a Ring Cycle, probably not. (Although I would be tempted if it were the Keilberth 53 and the technology could produce a modern studio quality sound.)If people want to buy the Solti Ring in its new remastering, I can't see why they would buy the physical product when they can just download it. I looked on Qobuz and both Rheingold and Walkure can be bought in the same 24 bit/192 kHz format as the SACD for about $25 each. The downloads aren't the cheapest (the whole Ring would come to $100), but in comparison the SACDs are about $85 and $100 respectfully, which is way too steep for a single recording.
You're bringing back nice memories of acquiring the Solti Ring in my teens (omitting the Walkure, for which opera I preferred the Leinsdorf recording in RCA's magnificent Soria series). I have to say that life has been downhill ever since.I just found out that the Solti Gotterdammerung LP Set I bought is from the estate library of Kurt Masur! I have a celebrity recording!!! I am stoked. They sent me Siegfried by mistake and it was a Time Life Issue and was the most beautiful and impeccable boxed set I had ever seen. I listened to the duet and it was astonishing!!!!! The Gotterdammerung is in the mail.