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Hans Sachs..........
 
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He didn't get the girl though............
He was bigger and wiser than that.
And he got the love of the whole town.
 
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I know, but you were the only poster who choose women (did someone else choose Merry Wives as well up thread?)

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I'm not impressed... There's a many a smarter Wagner character than that...

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He seems to be a true artist and savant to me. I'm curious who you would deem smarter. Of course a character like Hagen could be classified as smart in a totally different, manipulative sort of way. Although now that I think about it, Sachs is smart enough to manipulate events so that they come out the way he wants them to as well...
 

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But ah, he wanted to get killed! Who's smarter now???
Well it's arguable whether that makes him smart or noble? Smart to me is someone who cunningly keeps himself out of trouble, and exploits a situation to his own ends. Gianni Schicchi wins hands down! :lol:
 

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For smartest opera character, I'm going to go with Rodrigo from Don Carlo. He knows how to keep royals from going hysterical, knows how to flirt, knows how to deliver secret messages, and knows how to talk smack to a king.
Yeah, I have the feel that he's a fairly intelligent fellow myself. But I'm a bit biased.....any opportunity to vote for Don Carlo!
 

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So, classic movies?

Film noir seems like a pretty easy fit--murder, lust, fascinating femmes fatale, satisfying grim endings. They're practically verismo plots in different settings.

I can think of a bunch of movies but Double Indemnity springs to mind as one with a great set of central characters, and you could do interesting things with the framing device of Neff confessing into his dictaphone thing. Or if you wanted to be a little more contemporary, you could do fun things with The Last Seduction.
 
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