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"The Great Composers - The All-Eras All-Star Extravaganza" - Semi-Finals - Game 2 of 3

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"The Great Composers - The All-Eras All-Star Extravaganza" - Semi-Finals - Game 2 of 3

The decision to use the word "Great" rather than "Greatest" was intentional - We are endeavoring to express the perception of "greatness" within this multiplicity of composers rather than as a means of identifying and labeling an individual - The intended concept is an attempt to represent and judge those composers who have elevated craftmanship into true artistry.

The Format -

9 Quarter-Final games of 20 composers with the 6 receiving the highest point totals from each moving on to one of three Semi-Final games of 18 with 8 from each moving on to the Final.

The Rules -

1.) You may vote once per calendar day.

2.) You have a total of 20 points to distribute per entry with a maximum of 5 per individual composer.

3.) Play will end with the first composer to reach 200 points.

4.) The composers with the next 7 highest point totals will advance to the Final.

5.) In the event of a tie, each of the composers with identical scores will advance to the next round.

Note: You are welcome to comment upon any and all aspects of this competition provided such commentary is directed to this thread - ​

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"The Great Composers - The All-Eras All-Star Extravaganza" - Discussion Thread Nine Quarter-Final games consisting of 20 composers with the top six from each advancing to the Semi-Finals. Three Semi-Final games consisting of 18 composers with the top six from each advancing to the Final. The...
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Game Two -

Béla Bartók

Hector Berlioz

Benjamin Britten

John Cage

Antonín Dvořák

César Franck

George Frideric Handel

Charles Ives

Franz Liszt

Felix Mendelssohn

Carl Nielsen

Josquin des Prez

Ottorino Respighi

Arnold Schönberg

Dmitri Shostakovich

Igor Stravinsky

Antonio Vivaldi

Ralph Vaughan Williams
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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 170
Béla Bartók - 158
Arnold Schönberg - 143
Antonín Dvořák - 147 (+5)

Felix Mendelssohn - 126 (+5)
Igor Stravinsky - 116
Carl Nielsen - 117
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 88

George Frideric Handel - 73
Franz Liszt - 56
Hector Berlioz - 53
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52 (+5)
Ottorino Respighi - 51 (+5)

Charles Ives - 42
César Franck - 27
Antonio Vivaldi - 30
John Cage - 20

20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark
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New page - Updated board - Reminder - the eight composers with the highest point totals move on the Final...


20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 170
Béla Bartók - 158
Antonín Dvořák - 147
Arnold Schönberg - 143

Felix Mendelssohn - 126
Carl Nielsen - 117
Igor Stravinsky - 116
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 88

George Frideric Handel - 73
Franz Liszt - 56
Hector Berlioz - 53
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 42
Antonio Vivaldi - 30
César Franck - 27
John Cage - 20

20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark
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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 170
Béla Bartók - 158
Antonín Dvořák - 147
Arnold Schönberg - 143

Felix Mendelssohn - 126
Carl Nielsen - 117
Igor Stravinsky - 116
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 88

George Frideric Handel - 73
Franz Liszt - 56
Hector Berlioz - 58 (+5)
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47 (+5)
Antonio Vivaldi - 35 (+5)
César Franck - 32 (+5)
John Cage - 20

20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark
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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 175 (+5)
Béla Bartók - 163 (+5)
Antonín Dvořák - 152 (+5)
Arnold Schönberg - 143

Felix Mendelssohn - 131 (+5)
Carl Nielsen - 117
Igor Stravinsky - 116
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 88

George Frideric Handel - 73
Franz Liszt - 56
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 175
Béla Bartók - 167 (+4)
Antonín Dvořák - 152
Arnold Schönberg - 147 (+4)

Felix Mendelssohn - 131
Carl Nielsen - 117
Igor Stravinsky - 120 (+4)
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 92 (+4)

George Frideric Handel - 73
Franz Liszt - 60 (+4)
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 180 (+5)
Béla Bartók - 167
Antonín Dvořák - 157 (+5)
Arnold Schönberg - 147

Felix Mendelssohn - 131
Carl Nielsen - 122 (+5)
Igor Stravinsky - 120
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 92

George Frideric Handel - 78 (+5)
Franz Liszt - 60
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 185 (+5)
Béla Bartók - 167
Antonín Dvořák - 162 (+5)
Arnold Schönberg - 147

Felix Mendelssohn - 136 (+5)
Carl Nielsen - 127 (+5)
Igor Stravinsky - 120
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 92

George Frideric Handel - 78
Franz Liszt - 60
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 190 (+5)
Béla Bartók - 167
Antonín Dvořák - 167 (+5)
Arnold Schönberg - 147

Felix Mendelssohn - 141 (+5)
Carl Nielsen - 132 (+5)
Igor Stravinsky - 120
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 92

George Frideric Handel - 78
Franz Liszt - 60
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 195 (+5)
Béla Bartók - 172 (+5)
Antonín Dvořák - 167
Arnold Schönberg - 152 (+5

Felix Mendelssohn - 141
Carl Nielsen - 132
Igor Stravinsky - 125 (+5)
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 92

George Frideric Handel - 78
Franz Liszt - 60
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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Reminder: if two composers have the same amount of points, they both proceed to the finals...
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20 Points Max per Entry - 5 Points Max per Composer - Game ends with the first composer to reach the 200 points mark

Dmitri Shostakovich - 200 (+5)
Béla Bartók - 172
Antonín Dvořák - 167
Arnold Schönberg - 157 (+5)

Felix Mendelssohn - 141
Carl Nielsen - 137 (+5)
Igor Stravinsky - 125
Benjamin Britten - 90
Josquin des Prez - 92

George Frideric Handel - 78
Franz Liszt - 65 (+5)
Hector Berlioz - 58
Ralph Vaughan Williams - 52
Ottorino Respighi - 51

Charles Ives - 47
Antonio Vivaldi - 35
César Franck - 32
John Cage - 20

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And so ends Game 2 of the 3 game "The Great Composers - The All-Eras All-Star Extravaganza" - Semi-Finals

with the following eight composers moving on to the Final -


Dmitri Shostakovich - 200

Béla Bartók - 172

Antonín Dvořák - 167

Arnold Schönberg - 157

Felix Mendelssohn - 141

Carl Nielsen - 137

Igor Stravinsky - 125

Josquin des Prez - 92


"The Great Composers - The All-Eras All-Star Extravaganza" - Semi-Finals - Game 3 of 3 will begin shortly...
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Once again glad that wagering is not allowed as I would have lost a packet - I had Shostakovich, Bartók, Dvořák, Mendelssohn, Stravinsky, Handel, Vaughn Williams as the seven "locks" for advancement with Britten, Berlioz, and Liszt being the strongest competitors for the final eighth slot.

I didn't anticipate the start-to-finish consistently strong showing of Schönberg although in retrospect, I may have been willing to concede that he was probably the strongest of the dark horse candidates and to say that both Nielsen and des Prez were longer-than-long shots in my book was an understatement to put it mildly as I didn't see either of those two even being in the middle of the mid rankings - Maybe high bottom third or low middle third but nowhere near actually moving on to the Final meaning we have a much broader minded audience than I anticipated or realized.

Berlioz, I always considered middle of the pack at best, but to have both Handel and Vaughn Williams on the outside looking in was completely unexpected and those two would have cost me dearly as I would have wagered a significant amount of money on their being unbeatable "locks" but 17 players played the game and these are the results which we have to accept graciously.
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I'm glad that Josquin squeezed in at the last moment. If I'm not mistaken, he's the only renaissance composer who made it to semi-finals.

What puzzles me is why Nielsen is so popular. He's a good composer, but he has more points than Stravinsky, Britten, Handel, Liszt, Vivaldi or Berlioz, which is kinda... weird?
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Artran said:
I'm glad that Josquin squeezed in at the last moment. If I'm not mistaken, he's the only renaissance composer who made it to semi-finals.

What puzzles me is why Nielsen is so popular. He's a good composer, but he has more points than Stravinsky, Britten, Handel, Liszt, Vivaldi or Berlioz, which is kinda... weird?
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I'm with you on the Nielsen. I prefer him to Vivaldi and Handel, but I really don't understand how Britten missed out and how Stravinsky was second to last, too many votes for Dvorak (whom I don't really like, except for a couple of works) and Mendelssohn (who I do like, great composer, but not above Stravinsky at any rate).

On Des Prez, I'm glad he made it to, I love him, but I wish it hadn't been at the expense of Britten.
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Artran said:
What puzzles me is why Nielsen is so popular. He's a good composer, but he has more points than Stravinsky, Britten, Handel, Liszt, Vivaldi or Berlioz, which is kinda... weird?
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Here on TC, I can't recall anyone over the years expressing a dislike for Nielsen's music. The other composers above have had their detractors. Nielsen's good and he's harmless.
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Here on TC, I can't recall anyone over the years expressing a dislike for Nielsen's music. The other composers above have had their detractors. Nielsen's good and he's harmless.
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You can't do anything other than respect his showing as he certainly had "name" players with years of experience throwing down plus fives every chance they had - He was just completely off my radar - Always acquitted himself honorably in the other games without quite finishing first - at least as far as I can remember - I may be completely wrong as it requires a level of attention that I rarely, if ever, pay to anything - and he makes a fair to middling amount of appearances in "Current Listening" which are two sources that I use to judge potential results thus the surprise on my part - Fierce partisan support from beginning to end - The Final is definitely shaping up to be something to look forward to...
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Why isn't Haydn in this?
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Red Terror said:
Why isn't Haydn in this?
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Haydn is in Game 3 of 3.
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Red Terror said:
Why isn't Haydn in this?
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Haydn is in the midst of a fierce semi-final battle - barely hanging on to the eighth and last slot - as the composers square off for a place in the Final.

Find the last post of the last page of this thread to see where he currently stands...

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