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Our votes on the 13th tier selected the following works...

To move up to the 12th tier:
Messiaen: Quatuor pour la fin du temps (Quartet for the End of Time) [1941]
Mozart: Die Zauberflöte (The Magic Flute), K. 620 [1791]
Prokofiev: Piano Concerto #3 in C, op. 26 [1921]
Prokofiev: Symphony #5 in B-flat, op. 100 [1944]
Ravel: String Quartet in F [1903]
Schubert: Symphony #9 in C, D. 944 "Great" [c. 1827]
Shostakovich: Cello Concerto #1 in E-flat, op. 107 [1959]
Shostakovich: Symphony #10 in E minor, op. 93 [1953]
Tallis: Spem in alium [c. 1570]

To remain on the 13th tier:
Brahms: String Sextet #1 in B-flat, op. 18 [1860]
Bruckner: Symphony #8 in C minor, WAB 108 [1890]
Dvořák: String Quartet #12 in F, op. 96 "American" [1893]
Grieg: Piano Concerto in A minor, op. 16 [1868]
Mendelssohn: Symphony #4 in A, op. 90 "Italian" [1834]
Saint-Saëns: Symphony #3 in C minor, op. 78 "Organ" [1886]

To move down to the 14th tier:
Dvořák: Symphony #8 in G, op. 88 [1889]
Mendelssohn: Symphony #3 in A minor, op. 56 "Scottish" [1842]
 

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Our votes on the 27th tier selected the following works...

To move up to the 26th tier:
Bartók: Violin Concerto #2 in G, Sz. 112, BB 117 [1938]
Beethoven: Piano Sonata #31 in A-flat, op. 110 [1822]
Berlioz: Grande Messe des Morts (Requiem), op. 5 [1837]
Canteloube: Chants d'Auvergne [1923-30]
Dvořák: Symphony #7 in D minor, op. 70 [1885]
Janáček: Sinfonietta [1926]
Mahler: Rückert Lieder [1902]
Ravel: Piano Trio in A minor, op. 67 [1914]
Schubert: String Quartet #15 in G, D. 887 [1826]
Sibelius: Symphony #6 in D minor, op. 104 [1923]

To remain on the 27th tier:
Beethoven: Piano Sonata #26 in E-flat, op. 81a "Les Adieux" [1812]
Chopin: Piano Concerto #1 in E minor, op. 11 [1830]
Dohnányi: Piano Quintet #2 in E-flat minor, op. 26 [1914]
Dvořák: Slavonic Dances, opp. 46 & 72 [1878, 1886]
Fauré: Nocturnes [c. 1875-1921]
Haydn: String Quartets, op. 33 "Russian" [1781]
Haydn: Symphony #45 in F-sharp minor "Farewell" [1772]
Magnard: Symphony #4 in C-sharp minor, op. 21 [1913]
Mendelssohn: Piano Concerto #1 in G minor, op. 25 [1831]
Rimsky-Korsakov: Russian Easter Festival Overture, op. 36 [1888]

To move down to the 28th tier:
Tchaikovsky: Symphony #1 in G minor, op. 13 "Winter Daydreams" [1866]
 

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Our votes on the 95th tier, part 1, selected the following works...

To move up 2 to the 93rd tier:
Anonymous: Codex Las Huelgas [c. 1300]
Beethoven: Piano Sonata #19 in G minor, op. 49/1 [1795-8]
Biber: Missa Bruxellensis [c. 1700]
Chin: Piano Concerto [1997]
Dennehy: That the Night Come [2010]
Gallus: Opus musicum, including "O magnum mysterium" [1587]

To move up 1 to the 94th tier:
Adams: Grand Pianola Music [1982]
Adams: Violin Concerto [1993]
Aho: Symphony #12 "Luosto" for 2 orchestras [1994]
Avshalomov: Hutongs of Peking [1931]
Bach, J. C.: Keyboard Concertos, op. 7
Barber: Medea [1946]
Barrios: La Catedral [1921]
Bartók: Allegro barbaro, Sz. 49 [1911]
Bartók: Kossuth, Sz. 21, BB. 31 [1903]
Bax: Violin concerto [1938]
Beethoven: An die ferne Geliebte (To the Distant Beloved), op. 98 [1816]
Beethoven: Bagatelles (6), op. 126 [1824]
Berg: Sieben frühe Lieder (Seven Early Songs) [1908]
Berlioz: Grande symphonie funèbre et triomphale, op. 15 [1840]
Birtwistle: The Moth Requiem [2012]
Britten: Cello Suite #1, op. 72 [1964]
Browne: O Maria Salvatoris mater
Bruch: String Quartet #2 in E, op. 10 [1860]
Cornysh: Salve regina [by 1502]
Debussy: Rhapsody for alto saxophone and orchestra [1919]
Dennehy: Stainless Staining [2007]
Dohnányi: Piano Concerto #2 in B minor, op. 47 [1947]
Dufay: Ave Maris Stella [before 1505]
Farrenc: Symphony #1 in C minor, op. 32 [1842]
Fauré: Mélodies (2), op. 46, including "Clair de lune"
Franck: Trois Chorals for organ [1890]

To remain on the 95th tier:
Alfonso X: Cantiga de Santa Maria 417 "Nobre don e muy preçado" [13th cent.]
Andre: ...22, 13... [2004]
Arensky: Suite #1 for 2 Pianos in F, op. 15 [1890]
Arne: Artaxerxes [1762]
Arnold: Symphony #1, op. 22 [1949]
Atterberg: Symphony #4 in G minor, op. 14 "Sinfonia Piccola" [1918]
Babbitt: Composition for Twelve Instruments [1948, 1954]
Beethoven: Violin Sonata #10 in G, op. 96 [1812]
Berlioz: Béatrice et Bénédict, op. 27 [1862]
Berlioz: Les francs-juges overture, op. 3 [1825]
Billone: Sgorgo Y., N., & Oo. [2012, 2013]
Birtwistle: The Mask of Orpheus [1986]
Bliss: Cello Concerto [1970]
Boyce: Symphonies (8), op. 2 [c. 1760]
Brahms: Canons (13), op. 113 [by c. 1891]
Brahms: Songs (5), op. 49, including "Wiegenlied" ("Brahms's Lullaby") [1868]
Chabrier: Suite pastorale [1888]
Chávez: Symphony #6 [1962]
Dittersdorf: Six Symphonies after Ovid's Metamorphoses [1783]
Dufay: Adieu ces bons vins de Lannoys [1427]
Dukas: La Péri [1912]
Enescu: Orchestral Suite #3 in D, op. 27, "Villageoise" [1938]
Enescu: String Quartet #2 in G, op. 22/2 [1951]
Farrenc: Symphony #2 in D, op. 35 [1845]
Fauré: Pleurs d'or, op. 72 [1896]
Fujikura: Sparking Orbit for electric guitar and electronics [2013]
Gade: Echoes of Ossian, op. 1 [1841]
Gade: Symphony #5 in D minor, op. 25 [1852]

To move down 1 to the 96th tier:
Bargiel: Fantasia #1 in B minor, op. 5 [1851]
 

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Alright, so I’ve got a proposal, and it’s one that can be totally ignored but I think it would really be beneficial to the project. How about placing the voting threads in the main Classical Music Discussion forum rather than Polls and Games? There’s honestly only about 15 people who routinely visit the games section and vote, so that’s hardly representative of the Talk Classical Community. I think a lot of people honestly don’t even know about the existence of this amazing project because of this, and I have a feeling that they would gladly participate if they did, not to mention the fact that it would then truly be a good sample of the community that was voting rather than just the same 15-20 members every time. I’m sure you have a rationale for not doing this, but just offering a suggestion:)
 

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Alright, so I've got a proposal, and it's one that can be totally ignored but I think it would really be beneficial to the project. How about placing the voting threads in the main Classical Music Discussion forum rather than Polls and Games? There's honestly only about 15 people who routinely visit the games section and vote, so that's hardly representative of the Talk Classical Community. I think a lot of people honestly don't even know about the existence of this amazing project because of this, and I have a feeling that they would gladly participate if they did, not to mention the fact that it would then truly be a good sample of the community that was voting rather than just the same 15-20 members every time. I'm sure you have a rationale for not doing this, but just offering a suggestion:)
Thank you for that suggestion.

I've definitely thought about it, and maybe I'll do that someday, but the main consideration is that there are people who don't like anything like this, regardless of whether we call it a game or a poll or a project or anything else, and for now they can avoid them simply by not going to that sub-forum. If we do the threads in the main forum, they'll have to see them, and I anticipate that there'll be considerably more sturm und drang over this than we've already seen -- especially if we do more than two or three threads at a time. In the polls sub-forum it's no problem even to have seven or eight going at once, but that certainly wouldn't be tolerated on the main board.

The reverse is also true. I can't speak for anyone, so of course I may be wrong about this, but it seems to me that some of the people who are active in the polls sub-forum feel a kind of camaraderie there, and so some people might be disappointed if we stopped doing our threads there.

Weighing it all up, I think you're right that doing the threads in the polls sub-forum probably means we have less participation, but at least for now it seems to me that it is the right public relations approach.

My compromise measures have been to put this thread on the main board, and to encourage people to make reference threads here and in other sub-fora (like the opera sub-forum). Hopefully that will enable at least a few more people who would like to participate to find out about it.

This has been going on (in various forms) for over ten years now, and I dare to hope it will go on at least as long again. (To be honest, I'd even like to think that if something unfortunate happened to me so that I were unable to continue creating the threads and editing the document, someone else would take it up.) Over that time we've had ... perhaps hundreds (?) ... of participants, and so I hope we'll have hundreds more, perhaps not all at once but over the long term.
 

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I've definitely thought about it, and maybe I'll do that someday, but the main consideration is that there are people who don't like anything like this, regardless of whether we call it a game or a poll or a project or anything else, and for now they can avoid them simply by not going to that sub-forum. If we do the threads in the main forum, they'll have to see them, and I anticipate that there'll be considerably more sturm und drang over this than we've already seen -- especially if we do more than two or three threads at a time. In the polls sub-forum it's no problem even to have seven or eight going at once, but that certainly wouldn't be tolerated on the main board.
Although I admire your concern for members who are offended by looking at thread titles that don't sit well with them, I don't share it at all.
 
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