[Woodduck]

You want them here? You feel this thread has too few pages?

I said "there," not "here."

 

[59540]

Wow.. See how much you changed? Remember your past opinions. (Or maybe they were consuono's; I'm not too sure. It's kind of like confusing a certain David with marlow).
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hammeredklavier, you are into this stuff way, way too much.

 

[Ludwig Schon]

In comparison to his other masterpieces, Tannhäuser and Lohengrin’s librettos are are suboptimal…

 

[Kreisler jr]

Lohengrin seems in some ways the most conventional of mature Wagner with rather traditional villains and a boring hero etc.
Tannhäuser is a bit stark in the contrast of Wagner's two main themes, erotic passion and spiritual redemption (I don't remember who said this but one evil quip was that Wagner's music smelled like a mix of semen and incense...)
I am not too fond of either opera but they worked well enough; I think for the longest time these two were the most popular Wagner operas by some margin, or maybe even the only really popular ones.