How important are the movements / segments of a composition to you, especially their names and where they start and end?
Do you really care if a slow movement is called Andantino or Adagio or Lento sostenuto?
I understand and appreciate the breaks between movements and the tempo traditions composers can adhere to or not as they see fit. Like chapters in a novel, they give you a good place to catch your breath or (with a recording) take a break when nature calls. They also give us some insight into the overall structure of a piece. But sometimes it is taken to the extreme by further breaking down individual movements into complex descriptions of how the piece is to be played.
I was shopping for Stravinsky's Jeu de cartes and found a digital version I thought sounds good only to find it is broken into segments, some lasting only seconds, each with its own name and playing instructions.
1 First Deal. Introduction
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 0:41
2 First Deal. Pas d'action. Meno mosso
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 0:49
3 First Deal. Dance Variation. Moderato assai
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 1:37
4 First Deal. Dance of the Joker. Stringendo
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 1:06
5 First Deal. Waltz-Coda. Tranquillo
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 1:12
6 Second Deal. Introduction. Alla breve
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 0:19
etc.
What possible purpose is there in this?
It is not the price break that bothers me. I'm interested in the entire album. It's the number of files and having to worry about how they sort, or if I can concatenate them losslessly and move them around without misplacing one or more. It got me to questioning our entire habit of naming sections of pieces, especially when the sections are continuous, played without interruption.
Our conventions should change to accommodate the technology. I propose that a continuous section played without interruption is de facto one movement sometimes serving the purpose of more than one the same way a contraction serves for words. In this way Beethoven's Emperor concerto and Schumann's piano concerto have only two movements. (In fact while researching this idea I found that Schumann preferred the two movement designation. We've been going against his wishes for nearly two centuries.)
The further breaking down could then be pursued by those who have an interest in digging deeper, not circumnavigated by those who do not.
Do you really care if a slow movement is called Andantino or Adagio or Lento sostenuto?
I understand and appreciate the breaks between movements and the tempo traditions composers can adhere to or not as they see fit. Like chapters in a novel, they give you a good place to catch your breath or (with a recording) take a break when nature calls. They also give us some insight into the overall structure of a piece. But sometimes it is taken to the extreme by further breaking down individual movements into complex descriptions of how the piece is to be played.
I was shopping for Stravinsky's Jeu de cartes and found a digital version I thought sounds good only to find it is broken into segments, some lasting only seconds, each with its own name and playing instructions.
1 First Deal. Introduction
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 0:41
2 First Deal. Pas d'action. Meno mosso
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 0:49
3 First Deal. Dance Variation. Moderato assai
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 1:37
4 First Deal. Dance of the Joker. Stringendo
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 1:06
5 First Deal. Waltz-Coda. Tranquillo
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 1:12
6 Second Deal. Introduction. Alla breve
Igor Stravinsky, Neeme Järvi 0:19
etc.
What possible purpose is there in this?
It is not the price break that bothers me. I'm interested in the entire album. It's the number of files and having to worry about how they sort, or if I can concatenate them losslessly and move them around without misplacing one or more. It got me to questioning our entire habit of naming sections of pieces, especially when the sections are continuous, played without interruption.
Our conventions should change to accommodate the technology. I propose that a continuous section played without interruption is de facto one movement sometimes serving the purpose of more than one the same way a contraction serves for words. In this way Beethoven's Emperor concerto and Schumann's piano concerto have only two movements. (In fact while researching this idea I found that Schumann preferred the two movement designation. We've been going against his wishes for nearly two centuries.)
The further breaking down could then be pursued by those who have an interest in digging deeper, not circumnavigated by those who do not.