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music that lead you to classical?

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I was a doom affectionado i confess, still today i enjoy some doom-metal or not,pure doom
industrialo-noise doom, downtempo doom, ambient doom, sludgy doom.

Than i always enjoy quality ambient music, hard hitting music, relentless music...

I find this in classical music as well, common some piece of doom has the blueprint of gorecki sorrowfull song, or pendercki bold powerfull lento, and sometime doom can be sweet and about
beauty slow pace dosen mean necessarly non melodic.

So i guess artist like Hildegarde von Bingen can be a source of inspiration for a doom metal band , like a doomband made of womens, whit vocal harmony no yelling and powerfull heavy but ethericaly smooth.

My question is the following is there somesort of parallel to be made between doom and classical.
i mean classical sometime share the same esthetic whit doom-metal, look at Golitsin exile from khovanshchina, this perticular piece by mussorgsky is very doomy no one can disagree.

I mean it reek human misery, pain, suffering, but this is my interpretation of doom in classical music and the link between doom genra.

I Wonder if you consider these two type of doom genra, doom exist outside metal in classical music this is my point. what about Arvo Part ''deprofundis'' or '' silentium'' are defenatly into doom genra.

Than i could go on and on and on about it, someone here share my observation here his doom close to classical or closer than we think it is?

So enought bold statement for the day, i hope you enjoy reading me :tiphat:
 
#2 ·
The title of your thread might have been interesting. Then I read the rest of what you wrote and it seems I'm not qualified to respond unless the response considers 'doom' music.

I think people move to classical (or opera) from more modern genres do so because it is NOT what they normally listen to, rather than a genre leading them to it. Although I'm certainly aware of the classical nods in some progressive rock/metal.

It's all ours to enjoy. Feel free to enjoy doom and classical, opera and reggae, leider and rap, etc.
 
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I was lead to classical from progressive music, but not specifically because some prog bands use a classical quote from time to time.

After being heavily into the usual prog bands: King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, PFM, Camel, and an almost endless supply of Italian, French, German and US lesser known bands, I got more interested in the challenging avantgarde side of prog. Bands like Thinking Plague, Henry Cow, Universe Zero, Art Zoyd, Aranis, etc. Bands that are heavily influenced by the mid to late 20th century composers.

As soon as I really started rapping my mind around the atonality, serielism, dissonance, etc that many of these bands were using (along with passages of improvisation), it was a short step to the composers they were influenced by.
 
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For me metal is also the reason i also got a bit into classical music, but i'm totally not into doom-metal. As i guitar player i'm mostly interested into melodic guitar solo's. Sometimes you can even hear on which classical piece a solo is based.

Here, listen to a short part from solfeggietto:
Paganini's caprices are really suitable for guitar:

And for example, these solo's aren't based on classical pieces (as far as i know), but i do feel like Paganini could have written them:
 
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Deprofundis I wonder if after threads you really listen to something, one day you're looking for a genre and the day after for another.
Anyway to answer to your second question that does not have a lot to do with the title, yes obviously there is doomy classical music (just think of Beethoven and of the most famous passages of all classical music, the opening of the fifth symphony).
Another example is Sun Treader composed by Carl Ruggles.
 
#9 · (Edited by Moderator)
I may have said this on other similar threads...but I started out through some music by Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, and Rachmaninov in the beginning. I was introduced to classical through Disney's Fantasia, and then learned more about it once I started taking piano lessons.

Before then, I didn't really listen to music. I was exposed to pop from my sister and cousins, and some Latin music from my family, and rock from the culture around me, but nothing interested me that much. I remember that my favorite songs back then tended to be the more melodic ones.

Then, I discovered the more "dramatic" classical works, and that's what brought me in. Now I'm still kind of the same way; I mainly listen to classical, with some rock, pop, jazz, and electronic on the side. But no other genre of music led me to classical
 
#12 ·
While I certainly can't comment on the 'doom' side of your question, I can reply much as others have on the circumstances that brought me into the classical fold as it were.

Agreeing with both Strange Music and Cosmos, I think my first exposure to any 'grand' classical pieces was through Fantasia but then also through varied cartoons, chief of which was Tom and Jerry that seems to have had a reasonably large proponent of pieces included.

However, I then drifted away from all of it through my teens and was brought back by various video games that started to be backed up by full orchestras that were able to put together some amazing pieces and as they say one thing lead to another and now I'm an enthusiastic listener of most things considered 'classical'.
 
#13 ·
Nothing lead me to classical, I think it was just a leap of faith. But before I took it, I was listening to Current 93 and Death in June types of things.
 
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that film, angered me like in so many aspects. It is a brilliant film.
the book is a bit more interesting...
 
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I heard pieces from Mozart, Beethoven, Haydn and Vivaldi (Spring) through my childhood and apart from a few exceptions that I discovered as an adult (such as the Grosso Fugue) still hate them.
But in my mid/late teens I heard the Rite Of Spring which COMPLETELY changed me forever. Then I heard Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra, Miraculous Mandarin, Xenakis' Metastasis, Pithoprarakta then Partch's On the Seventh day, plus Stockhausen's Gruppen. After that I discovered Frank Zappa, who through different interviews was turned onto Varese, Webern and Carter. After that, with aid of the internet have discovered more composers than I'll ever be able to hear! :lol: :tiphat:
 
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My first love was Beethoven and I was 15 years old.My first lp was the fifth symphony with Karajan,a mono lp on the yellow label,was cheaper and and did not know wat stereo was.I could not listen anymore to popsongs there was no nutrition for my musical hunger.It was a adventurous journey and still is .I have also spend many years to explore the artmusic of other cultures,very rewarding.