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Symphony suggestions?

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#1 ·
My collection of symphonies is begging to be fed, and I'd really appreciate some suggestions to help it grow. As of right now, here's what I have:

Dvořák:
  • Symphony No. 8
Pretty good, makes me think of a different world...

Brahms:
  • Symphony No. 1
  • Symphony No. 4
Actually, I haven't listened to No. 1 yet. :eek: No. 4, however, reminds me of a different world in the same way as Dvořák's 8th.

Beethoven:
  • Symphony No. 1
  • Symphony No. 3 "Eroica"
  • Symphony No. 5
Always seem to associate No. 1 with morning, but I really love how he takes such a simple motif and totally builds the whole symphony around it in No. 5.

Haydn:
  • Symphony No. 60
Very stately, but intensity ebbs and flows very nicely. I prefer my symphonies in four movements, though. ;)

Tchaikovsky:
  • Symphony No. 4
  • Symphony No. 5
No. 4 is definitely very Russian, but in such a great way! The movements square each other off very nicely. No. 5 is a little more sleepy, but the ending of mvt. III cadences nicely to lead into the beginning of mvt. IV, which at first sounds more like a coda than a concluding movement, until it starts to really build up for a climactic ending. Fantastic!

So... any suggestions? Maybe some new things to try, maybe some similar styles to pair up nicely? Thank you in advance!
 
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#3 ·
Yes, you definitely need to expand! First, you should add Dvorak's 5th, 6th, 7th, and 9th to your list, as well as Brahms' 2nd and 3rd. I would also recommend Mendelssohn's 3rd and 4th, Sibelius' 2nd (just for starters; listen to the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th afterwards), Prokofiev's 1st and 5th (don't be alarmed at how different they are), and Vaughan Williams' 2nd and 5th. This should offer some pretty good variety for you; I'm sure someone will come along and give you other good selections as well. These just happen to be some of my favorites (and in my opinion nothing beats Brahms).
 
#8 ·
If you want "a different world," then nothing beats Alan Hovhaness (who wrote about 70 symphonies!). The most well-known & easiest to get is Symphony No. 2 "Mysterious Mountain." His music is modern but thoroughly accessible & it has a real sense of craftsmanship (his wife apparently said that he was born in the wrong century). Delos has a few good 2 cd sets of his music, at budget price (one of them includes the second symphony). Budget label Naxos also has about 5 discs of his music (but not the second symphony, so I'd go for the one with Symphony No. 22 "City of Light" - now there's another world! - & the early Cello Concerto). Enjoy!...
 
#9 ·
Were to begin. First and foremost everyone should listen to Raff 's 11 symphony masterpieces. They are the finest pieces of music from the Romantic era. Other composers I would recommend are Anton Rubinstein, probably the best Russian composer ever. Reinecke, Czerny, Braga Santos, Bax. Ries, and Alfven too.
 
#10 ·
Haydn's latter symphonies are very Beethovenian (or vice versa). Check out the Symphony No. 100 "Military" for some nice moments and even a bit of humor.

I would recommend Beethoven's 7th before the 6th, though all of Beethoven's are good.

A couple of very nice C20 symphonies:
Copland -No. 3 (includes Fanfare for the Common Man so you get two works for the price of one sort of.)
Nielsen - No. 4 "The Inextinguishable"

Other composers I would recommend are Anton Rubinstein, probably the best Russian composer ever.
I agree with this statement whole heartedly. Though I have not yet heard his symphonies, the Piano Concerto No. 5 is full of melodic wonders.
 
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#13 ·
Dvorak - Symphony No. 9
Beethoven - Symphonies Nos. 6, 7, & 9 (absolutely at least the 6th and the 9th, but the 7th is very nice as well)
Berlioz - Symphonie fantastique
Schubert - Symphonies Nos. 8 & 9
Bruckner - Symphony No. 4
Mahler - all of them, but start with Nos. 1 & 2
Mozart - Nos. 40 & 41
Tchaikovsky - No. 6
Rachmaninoff - No. 2


These are the ones I continuously return to -
 
#14 ·
You should definitely get the Mahler and Bruckner symphonies, the 7 of Sibelius, the Borodin 2nd,
the Saint-Saens 3rd(organ )symphony, the Franck d minor, the first six Dvorak symphonies,
the two of Elgar, the Prokofiev 1st(classical0 and 5th, Shosatakovich 1,5,7,9 ,10,
Vaughan Williams 2,4, 6, all four of Schumann, the seven completed Schubert symphonies, Mendelssohn 3 and 4, Copland 3, the six of Nielsen, all 3 of Rachmaninov, just for starters.
For a really good buy,get the Kertesz/LSO set of all 9 Dvorak symphonies on Decca.
 
#15 ·
Sibelius 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Bax 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

VW 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9

Martinu 1,2,3,4,5,6

Shostakovich 4,5,6,7,8,10,11,15

Mahler 1,2,3,5,6,7

Nielsen 4,5

Those were my symphony introductions and I would recommend them to anyone looking for a wide range of early 20th century, colourful, rewarding listens - best thing is not to just go forthe popular ones because more often than not it can be the others that can be vry diffrent and more interesting
 
#17 ·
So... any suggestions? Maybe some new things to try, maybe some similar styles to pair up nicely? Thank you in advance!
To name just a few of each as doorways to other avenues:

You absolutely cannot go wrong with Beethoven's sixth symphony. Put that one high on your to-listen-to list. Its just one unending stream full of melodic lines and can be quite an emotional experience. I recently got John Eliot Gardiner's HIP recording and I think really captures the spirit of it wonderfully. Its part of a box set however, and I don't think you can get it separately (iTunes offers it on a separate "album" IIRC).

Of all of Sibelius' symphonies, I like the third the most, with a really sunny first movement. There's a good recording of it on Naxos by the Iceland Symphony Orchestra.

Hovhaness has a real modal flavour and I'm quite taken by his 2nd symphony at the moment (with Gerard Schwarz conducting in my particular recording). Modern, but modal, not atonal. Very much in the vein of much of Ralph Vaughan Williams' modal work.

And of Vaughan Williams, the 3rd and 5th symphonies are great places to start. I've heard a few recordings of both of these symphonies, but I like Hickox's on Chandos the best.

Aaron Copland's third is still a relatively conservative modernist symphony-- it straddles his more popular work of Copland and the more dissonant work-- but it does lean more toward his popular approach. The first movement especially is a thing of beauty, very expansive. Yoel Levi's recording of this is excellent.

Shostakovich's tenth symphony is a dramatic affair written after Stalin's death. The first movement (20 minutes long) is amazing by itself. I like Jarvi's recording, but check out Karajan's.
 
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#18 ·
Earthling said:
Of all of Sibelius' symphonies, I like the third the most, with a really sunny first movement. There's a good recording of it on Naxos by the Iceland Symphony Orchestra.
That is my favorite Sibelius symphony as well. It was the work that got me into Sibelius, who is now one of my favorite composers. After the Third my favorites are the 7th, 4th, 5th, 2nd, and 1st. The 6th still hasn't caught on for me yet.

A Sibelius-like symphony is George Dyson's Symphony in G. Also try Douglas Lilburn's symphonies (no. 2 is especially fantastic).
 
#20 ·
The third was my gateway into Sibelius as well :) though the 6th is my third favourite (following the 7th). I need to revisit Lilburn's symphonies. His single movement works are wonderful (Aotearoa, the Drysdale Overture, etc.) and absolutely love his piano music (we need more recordings of it!), but oddly, I haven't been able to connect to any of his three symphonies-- yet. I don't know Dyson's work at all and I'll have to check it out.
 
#24 ·
I would venture into ............ Sibelius (2-7) first....................
strangely enough I came to sibelius with the 1st - anyone liking the broader romantic sound should start with the 1st - and people who eventually tap into the sibelius magic will end up at the 6th which is the most magical and artistically rich of them all as far as I can see now
 
#23 ·
I am a Haydn fanatic and I cannot get enough of him. You simply must add his 88th, 92nd (the "Oxford"), the 45th (The "Farewell"), and the 83rd (The "Hen"), to your collection As far as Mozart is concerned I'm really liking his 9th symphony. It's short for a symphony (it's 4 movements though) but it's a really good symphony. As far as Beethoven, you simply need them all but I highly recommend his 8th symphony (his "little symphony in F"). Someone mentioned the Berlioz "Symphonie Fantastique." That's also a must. Shostakovich's 5th, and 10th symphony is also a necessary thing.
 
#25 ·
Koprachis:

I might suggest some 'filling in' of several of the composers you've listed.
Dvorak's Sixth Symphony in D Major is a favorite of mine--like the Eighth, it's a rather 'sunny' work and very refreshing to listen to, at least IMO.

Brahms Second (also in D Major), very interesting with a lovely second movement and a really rousing, good-humored finale.

I'd also include the 7th and 8th of the Beethoven symphonies, they make an extremely interesting pair.

And the Tchiakovsky 2nd ("Little Russian") is a lot of fun. It's amazing how much mileage he gets out of a little 2-bar phrase in the finale.

Tom
 
#30 ·
Hey- you're getting a ton of suggestions which is great, but in case your getting lost in them here are some of the 'core' symphonies that would be good for expanding a collection:

Dvorak 9
Beethoven 7
Mozart 40,41
Mahler 1 or 5 (for starters)
Sibelius (most would suggest 2 or 5 but my favorite is 3)

and then for something a little more modern try Prokofiev 5 or Shostakovich 10... and that should keep you busy for awhile. Then decide which composers/eras you like the most (keeping in mind ones you've already mentioned- Haydn, Brahms, Tchaikovsky) and delve into the rest of their works. Every composer mentioned above has a strong symphonic cycle, except with Mozart you should start with symphonies 29 and after and Haydn you might want specific suggestions since 106 symphonies would be a big investment.

Hope that helps!
 
#31 ·
Sibelius (most would suggest 2 or 5 but my favorite is 3
I'd definitely go for 3 first. Many say that one should go for 2 or 5, but I think the hype surrounding them is a bit overdone. Yes, they're great symphonies, but for me the 3rd just has an extra something. Magic, joy, purity, whatever you want to call it; it brings to mind the later symphonies in its focus and compactness while retaining the immediacy of the early symphonies--best of both worlds, in my opinion.
 
#32 ·
I think that the most important thing is to listen to a couple of recordings of each symphony. You might dismiss a great work that you'd otherwise be able to appreciate, if you only listen to an uninspired recording.

Try to learn some favourite orchestras and conductors; pick up recordings from them.