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What’s Your Heritage?

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#1 ·
Lil Ludi is 3/4 Irish & 1/4 German.

However, 1/2 of Lil Ludi’s Irish heritage is Norman (Anglo-French) and only a 1/4 is Celtic.

While born and brought up in Ireland, Lil Ludi has lived the majority of his life in London…

And yet, while Lil Ludi has an Irish brogue, he is quintessentially English in other ways - i.e. he does not enjoy the company of other people (Sartre’s No Exit and all that), preferring dogs, cats, horses and well-behaved children.

That said, Lil Ludi has nothing but contempt for those swivel-eyed, gammon peasants from Wales, Scotland and Norn Iron who think they're British. Britain no longer exists and a United Ireland is just around the corner.

Following my blueprint or as Roger Daltry once reflected in 1978:

“Who the feck are you?”
 
#2 ·
Henry is British and devilishly proud of it too!

My mum is Italian and is still creating the best cannelloni, lasagne and gnocchi in the world. Her brodo is indescribable. My dad was English from Hoxton, the heartbeat of London.

On my mother's side there are some Croatian and Serbian ancestors. On my father's side, it's just English and Irish.

Mrs Penfold is a non-white, non-christian, non-European worshiper of that well known religion of peace. Christ knows what that makes our kids. I'm a born-again atheist (I spent some time in the wilderness in my anti-theist days).

Why proud to be British? That's easy, it's the gifts that we have bestowed on mankind - habeas corpus, common-law and civil jurisprudence, Shakespeare, the computer, the internet, modern medicine, Association Football (the greatest game on the planet), the bicycle, steamships, railways, the tin can, mechanisation and best of all, the English language....... The list is endless, but just thinking about it all brings a tear to my eye and a lump to the throat.
 
#8 ·
No surprise to see that Henry, the Man from Del Monte has no comprehension of his own bloodied, shameful history. Irrespective of all that - BoJo aside - facts still matter… Habeas Corpus dates from at least 1166, whereas the Act of Union between Ingerlund and Scotland didn’t occur until 1707... Briton is a myth… Ignorant, Lil Inglunders have driven our economy into the ditch…
 
#3 ·
Edward's ancestors are, by diminishing proportion, German, Hungarian, Irish, and French — a typical American who can trace his lineage back to the revolution by way of a Hessian mercenary.
 
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Research tells me I'm 100% English back as far as I can trace - 14th C. on my mother's side, 18th C. on my father's. Mother's family originally from the Yorkshire/Lancashire borders, include, "The great and the good", of England, founders of Inns of Court, parliamentarians, Generals in the Army, courtiers of Henry VIII. Father's family from Chilham in Kent, are 250-years of agricultural labourers, prison, workhouse, and general ne'er-do-wells. Mother's parents were in service for the local Lordship, and she fell for the local motorcycle-riding tearaway.

Despite my avatar, I'm not especially proud of my Englishness/Britishness. Have just booked a one-way ticket out of here on 5th August.
 
#16 ·
English with mainly Irish and Welsh on my late mother's side. Happy with the mixture, and am a pro-Brexit Unionist which might just jeopardise my chances of being on Ludwig's Christmas card list. Perhaps my being strung up from the nearest lamp post come the glorious day might be delayed by the fact that I am not a monarchist. :)
 
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English with mainly Irish and Welsh on my late mother's side. Happy with the mixture, and am a pro-Brexit Unionist which might just jeopardise my chances of being on Ludwig's Christmas card list. Perhaps my being strung up from the nearest lamp post come the glorious day might be delayed by the fact that I am not a monarchist. :)
Two outta three ain't bad!

I'm a Pro- Brexit Unionist Monarchist! :p
 
#18 ·
If we go up to my great grandparents, only one of them was a native of the land we call Argentina. Then it's 25% hungarian (my grandpa also learned hungarian at home before learning spanish although he was born here), 12.5% besarabian (part of Moldova today), 12.5% from a town called Pinsk, in what is today Belarus, and 37.5% Spanish, from Galicia. That first 50% is my mother's side, and all are ashkenazi jews. One of my four grandparents was born in Spain, and because of him I'm lucky to also have a Spanish citizenship, which will surely come in handy if I ever decide to leave this insane and beautiful country of mine
 
#21 ·
Both sides from the Gaeltacht -

Paternal - Donegal (Gaoth Dobhair - Gweedore) - Gaeilge as a first language.

Maternal - Galway (Connemara) - Gaeilge Chonnacht as a first language

I was born in Dublin however we lived in Dalkey, a southern suburb.

The family (parents and 4 sisters) emigrated to Chicago the year that I turned 14.

My sister Shannon was born on January 1st... I was born on December 18th... of the same year... We are what are colloquially known as "Irish twins".

Shannon is still remarkably bitter at my admittedly unplanned and relatively unwelcomed arrival which she feels upstaged her carefully planned and eagerly awaited arrival...

She wishes that I would have been able to find a way to "shelter in place" for another two weeks...

I feel that it would have been a hell of a lot easier for Shannon to "vacate the premises" a day sooner... but good luck convincing her of that one...She's Irish and a grudge held once is a grudge held forever.

I have dual citizenship - Travel on the Irish passport when visiting countries that have a pronounced tendency towards anti-Americanism.... like Canada for example.
 
#23 ·
My sister Shannon was born on January 1st... I was born on December 18th... of the same year... We are what are colloquially known as "Irish twins".

Shannon is still remarkably bitter at my admittedly unplanned and relatively unwelcomed arrival which she feels upstaged her carefully planned and eagerly awaited arrival...

She wishes that I would have been able to find a way to "shelter in place" for another two weeks...

I feel that it would have been a hell of a lot easier for Shannon to "vacate the premises" a day sooner... but good luck convincing her of that one...She's Irish and a grudge held once is a grudge held forever.
Perhaps your mother might have had something to say about these matters.
 
#27 ·
Inbred, Appalachian, redne3k hillybilly is your official title.

Your precious people were first planted in Ireland by the English about 500 years ago, as they wanted the Scottish Highlands - especially after the slaughter of Culloden - free for sheep and grouse hunting…

Congressman Richie Neal had these Ulster Scots up in arms this week over the below observation in the Irish News…

God forbid they should ever get off benefits, stop drug dealing and illegal paramilitary activities…
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#31 ·
Half Norwegian, quarter English, eighth German, eighth Scot.

Five generations American on my mother's side, traced her ancestry back to the Pilgrims (1620) and a 500-year French duchy before that (back to 870 A.D.), before the Crusades.

Three generations American on my dad's side, nothing but farmers and tradesmen on his side. Dead-ended at 1346.
 
#36 ·
By blood I'm mostly English with a bit of Dutch and French Huguenot. Basically old Yankee stock. One of my ancestors was a follower of Anne Hutchinson, another was Wolfert Gerritse van Couvenhoven, and another supposedly served as George Washington's bodyguard. Going way back,

By adoption I'm Scots-Irish on both sides with a tiny bit of Melungeon.
 
#42 ·
Many different loyalties and identities. Since I cannot be held responsible for my genealogy, I view it with some scepticism, but am comforted by it too.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world but my country of birth (England), but I don't have to (dis)like, admire or be proud of that nation state.

Having said that, if my wife decided she wanted to move to the Western Isles (from where my paternal grandfather hails), I'd be happy too.

I'll steer clear of any specific political declarations. If anyone knows the novelist whose name I have borrowed, and some of his works, they might know my politics are "Only Connect".
 
#43 ·
My late father loved to quote that beautiful line:

“If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.”

It is only because I love London and individual English people so much that I despair at what they have allowed happen to their country and my city over these last six years…
 
#48 ·
Yes it's sad. We indigenous Anglo/Saxon/Celtic British are no longer in the majority in London (I assume that's what you are lamenting), but it's been going on for more than the last 6 years (what made you say that?). Anyway, nothing lasts forever, so we must be philosophical......
 
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#44 ·
Exiled Liverpudlian. On Dad's side: Maltese from English and Sicilian roots. On Mum's side: European Jewish with Austrian, Polish, Czech and Croatian elements, further back probably Khazars from the Russian steppes. Despite all that, I've been told both that I come across as typically English (in France) and that I don't (in Germany, where they cited my possession of a sense of humour, which I thought was ironic coming from that particular source).