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What represents the peak of Mozart's works to you?

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I apologize if this thread has been done before, but it seemed like it could be an interesting discussion.

Mozart belongs to a rare class of composers in that he excelled in almost every genre he undertook, from opera to symphony to chamber ensembles to solo pieces.

In your opinion, which form of composition was his greatest strength? I suspect many will say opera, and that may be the right answer. I'm a new fan of his (and not too big on opera in general to be honest) and have heard very little of his operas. But as mentioned before he has made gems in almost every genre of classical music at the time.

Personally, I think his symphonies are my favorite of his work, once he started to really hit his stride with it around the 25th. He had a lot of talent in structure and orchestration. I'm a big fan of the piano concertos as well, but I haven't heard any of the early ones (1-11).

What do you think?
 
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In the master's symphonic writing, I would rate his Jupiter Symphony as the absolute peak, particularly the fourth movement with its fugal writing: its baseline boldness, its beauty, its Bach-like rigor, its effortless Classical elegance, its confidence, its soaring emotional uplift, it's sense of triumph, its consummate genius-the result of a lifetime of love, inspiration, and study:

 
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If you ask me which 'form of composition' (genre) has the greatest impression on me, it would be the liturgical works, (Masses, Vespers, Motet (Ave Verum Corpus), including the Masonic ones as he had been writing them all his life (quite literally)) there is a great deal of wealth in them.
 
#12 ·
Even as pure music (rather than as dramas) his operas are too wonderful. But his symphonies - from 24 (K182) onwards - and most of his piano concertos are also wonderful. And the clarinet works. And then there is a lot of other chamber music (especially most of the quintets) ... . Actually the OP say it - he excels in most genres. So why choose? But, if you do it has to be the operas - the three Da Ponte operas, The Magic Flute, Idomeneo, La Clemenza di Tito. I am not really an opera fan but as pure music there is so much there ... and they are great to watch, too.
 
#17 ·
The OP is not asking for our favourite Mozart work(s), but:

In your opinion, which form of composition was his greatest strength?
To my taste, concertos, and it's not even close. Especially a dozen or more of his piano concertos, the clarinet concerto (possibly my favourite concerto ever), the oboe concerto, the horn concertos, and the fifth violin concerto. Difficult to think of any other composer that combined quality and quantity in this form like him.
 
#41 ·
The OP is not asking for our favourite Mozart work(s), but:

To my taste, concertos, and it's not even close. Especially a dozen or more of his piano concertos, the clarinet concerto (possibly my favourite concerto ever), the oboe concerto, the horn concertos, and the fifth violin concerto. Difficult to think of any other composer that combined quality and quantity in this form like him.
I second your clarification of the OP and your answer. I also think his collection of concertos seem unmatched by others. I would add the sinfonia concertante, Flute Concerto No. 2 In D Major - K. 314, and Concerto for Flute and Harp in C Major - K. 299.
 
#20 ·
Instrumental concertos and operas are where Mozart reached his peak, IMHO.
 
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I'd say Mozart "peaked" at the end of his life. These compositions all have very later Köchel numbers:

Clarinet concerto, The Magic Flute, Requiem, String Quintet in E flat and Ave Verum Corpus.

The longer he went about it, the better he got in my opinion. He died young, aged 35, so this could have continued about 30-40 years without decline had he lived longer.
 
#25 ·
Definitely more or less what I expected. Still interesting seeing everyone's perspectives here!

I'd like to get more into Mozart's operas, but I don't really have that kinda free time to be watching whole 2-3+ hour works at a time. How do y'all opera fans typically enjoy his operatic works? DVDs, youtube, listening only to the music?
 
#27 ·
To answer this question I would have to ask which genre I would want to survive if there was only one and it would have to be opera. Much as it would pain me to let the rest go - these are the works that Mozart revelled in composing and the last 6 operas are all supreme. Contrast this with the symphonies and even piano concertos where some are better than others. From Idomeneo on when Mozart put his pen to opera the result was something special every time. The last 8 piano concertos are near the mark - if you take out K537.

I would like to scupper this notion that only the very high K numbers showed Mozart at his best. The sinfonia concertante K364, PC 9 Idomeno Die Entfuhrung mass in c minor all composed 8 years before he died belong to his immortal works.