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Which complete Mozart symphony cycle would you get?

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Hey! My favorite composer is Mozart forever but I don't have a complete symphony box. I think I decided that Mackerras and Prague orch. are my favorite, and can get it by pressing a button. My father has it and I've heard it a lot. Now I see that Adam Fischer/Danish Chamber Orch. has a delicious set. I can hear them all on spotify. I would like to steer away from Karl Böhm and his mighty and thunderous version :)
 
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Pinnock's set works best for me as a survey of all the symphonies. But I confess to being lukewarm about Mackerras in Mozart as I find him a little lacking in sparkle and joyousness and a little mechanical. You could also try Harnoncourt who I like in the earlier symphonies but find a little perverse in the late great works. I don't know the Fischer set but expect it is good.
 
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Unconvinced of Mozart as a symphonist with Pinnock, sorry.

I'd strongly recommend Jeffrey Tate. Karl Bohm is very good too.

However, unlike Haydn, I am not sure there's such a thing as a proper set out there. As super duper as Mozart was, I don't find that much of interest in the early Symphonies, and they do take up a lot of CDs. There are a lot of surveys of the more mature works (maybe 29 onwards?) that are excellent.
 
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#29 ·
I have got the brilliant classics set which came with the complete Mozart edition. It's pretty good but I certainly wouldn't go out and buy the complete Mozart Symphony is as the early ones are really very juvenile works. Remarkable for a kid but they do not bear too much repeated listening
Agree on the early symphonies. They are simply OK. The first symphony stands out as above the others and I have often wondered if daddy dear didn't help out on that one.
 
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I read some pretty harsh reviews about the Fischer set. Great sound and ensemble but poor interpretations. The Glover set mentioned by Dark Angel sounds the best to my ears although it's not complete.
 
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Most of the reviews of Fisher's set are positive (check out Music Web and Classics Today for their often very positive reviews of individual discs). A few sites were less enthusiastic but even these weren't wholy dismissive. As with any Adam Fischer recording I would say listen first though. These are brisk, urgent and crisp readings that not everyone will love but I think they're rather good. Big band Mozart it ain't but its not the worse for it. The sound is superb throughout. I have most of the Glover recordings (and actually played one as part of the Saturday Symphony at Weekend) but they're merely good and not outstanding.
 
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I have just one Hogwood CD in the Bach Orchestral Suites. I hated it right of the bat. Rushing through at a ridiculous tempo on the first piece. It destroyed the character and charm of the music.
 
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I have just one Hogwood CD in the Bach Orchestral Suites. I hated it right of the bat. Rushing through at a ridiculous tempo on the first piece.
I don't own that recording, but having previewed it just now I see what you mean - it's probably the fastest Overture to the First Suite that I've heard. The rest seemed fine to me, though.
 
#27 ·
Both of those sets (of the Back suites) are exceptional - the Freiburgers because of their interest in dance rhythms and Ensemble Sonnerie because they use different instrumentation in 2 and 3. Other exceptional recordings include Harnoncourt's (he transforms the 3rd suite into something that seems more profound to me) and Goebel offers an excellent survey that doesn't do anything unusual. There are probably quite few more excellent sets.
 
#26 ·
HEY! I ended up ordering Adam Fischer and the Danes. It's actually correct that they omit no. 32...Found out too late. I'm a little surprised not many people have recommended Mackerras/Prague. I wanted to confirm my fantastic taste in music :) The ones I listened to with Fischer sounded fresh and adventurous. Don't think I have any recordings with mr. Fischer.
 
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#30 ·
One of my very first purchases was the complete set of Mozart symphonies by Hogwood and the AAM. I generally have found the performances a bit harsh, not sure how to best describe my impressions from years ago, but perhaps the recordings were made in the early days of the 'authentic' performances movement, which gave them a sound less pleasing to my ear than 'big band' symphony performances.

I've listened to many different performances and most recently picked up the set of symphonies performed by Mackerras and the Prague Chamber Orchestra, which I have enjoyed:

 
#31 ·
I enjoy the Mackerras/Prague set very much. HOWEVER, I would "supplement" that with Mackerras' more recent recordings with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. It's not a complete set but it covers 29, 31, 32, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, and 41. The sound quality on these CDs is wonderful and the performances are equally good.

https://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Symph...VN0HG&keywords=mackerras+mozart&qid=1575258918&sprefix=Mackerras,aps,143&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Symph...90a-5e9f86682449&pf_rd_r=Q6JKXXKT3749P4QC917B&psc=1&refRID=Q6JKXXKT3749P4QC917B
 
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Surprised that Marriner hasn't been mentioned yet.
I'm not always a fan of his polished style, but I think it works well in Mozart, much more so than in Haydn or the early romantics.
This set has served me very well over the years..

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I would like to steer away from Karl Böhm and his mighty and thunderous version :)
Big Band Mozart isn't necessarily a bad thing. Bruno Walter did some wonderful Mozart symphonies, and I've good memories of Josef Krips and the Concertgebouw, don't remember if he did them all.
 
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I am pretty sure Tate/EMI is complete. IIRC, Tate, Pinnock/Archiv, Graf/Capriccio/Delta Music and Levine/DG (and maybe another one I forgot) were all done in the mid-late 1980s to be ready for the 1991 anniversary. (Hogwood/Schröder, the first on old instruments was begun in the late 70s but of course also available for the anniversary, but I doubt it was started especially for the anniversary.)

Whereas the biggest anniversary project, Philips "Complete Mozart edition" used the Marriner recordings at least some of which were older; I think they had to fill some gaps because in the LP age Marriner had first done a bunch of symphonies for Decca/Argo, then only the "early ones" (up to 20 or 22) for Philips to complement the Krips/Concertgebouw.